having seen Adnan's batting, dont think he will be too successful in LA. Mehul on the other hand is an excellent all rounder and deserves to go to LA as one of the top MWCC's picks.
Would have been nice if Adnan and management were working together to promote cricket in Midwest. It will be a pity players going to LA from same league under two persons who cant stand each other?? What kinda image that will be?
To be honest, league needs a new leadership. We all have seen Tariq's Bull Sxxx and Adnan is too much of a politician..a lil too much (may be with power he might be worse than Tariq) ???? There are other people in league which can be excellent candidates. I hope that players from experienced and mature teams like Wildcats, Challengers, Bears, Rogers Park, Pak Gym, ICC etc would move forward so that we dont pick a president that will be worse than now.
Does anybody agree/disagree or would it be Tariq Vs Adnan again next year?
i dont have a very good feeling about adnan from what i have seen. al least you can talk to tariq. i would say someone like jaggi/romeen can do the job.
"i notice that you have PAK GYM and mature teams in the same sentence" LOL.. Thanks for catching my mistake there!!
But yes, i do agree that Jaggi/Romeen/Ajit/Tushar/vikram would be excellent candidates. People who are liked by everyone. Adnan's head is already up on skies even he isnt the president yet, imagine him being the President? I just hope next elections we pick up a President who will listen to people, easy to talk to and easily accessible (not somebody whose running the league from another freaking state!).
Well running the league is no joke. Can't just vote for someone because he is 'friendly'. But Jaggi has it all. He's a good guy and a good organizer. I just hope he takes up the responsibility. What say you Jaggi?
Tango, you said it right..."Running the league aint no joke". Thats exactly why Jaggi/ Romeen can't be the president.
They are extremely nice guys, but we dont need a nice guy, we need a president. A president should be mean and be able to take any shit thrown at ya..and thats why Tariq's being able to keep most of the teams.
I definitely think that we need a new president with a new management team, its time for a change. But I don’t know if Adnan’s the right guy either, since he is shown enough negativity during last campaign.
We need a guy who can take the crap from all the teams, be able to handle the multi cultural team structure within our league.
I’ll get straight to the point, we want a guy who can handle the teams that have Indian, Pakistani and West Indian folks.
You name me one person who can deal with all of that…
Tango.. thank you for all the kind words. My wife should be reading your comment :) Yes, like most of us here, I too am very passionate about cricket and our league.
I have not thought about elections next year. If I do decide to stand for elections, trust me the whole world will know :)
t_p, you bring an excellent point about the next president being able to handle the multicultural teams. It can get complicated, but, a good challenge nevertheless. I believe that if the President can keep cricket and the league above all other issues, things can get sorted.
just a thought.... since the last election... the present mgmt has realized they are definetly not making it for another term so bag everything while you can....i mean as soon as they won the election last year the fees went to 2300 and now 2400(i think)......no banquet either. one other thing the mgmt knew they wont do a banquet thats why out of all these years they decided to hand the trophy for the winners at the ground....something to think abt...
Jaggi, I'm glad you are not backing out from the challenge....maybe you'll kick some ass! :-) Hey, if you decide to stand up, I'll be there next to you man...
Jaggi, Come on man, you know we all love you. if you stand up, I think you will get a lot of support. You have some votes here on already.
Tariq and Adnan have both hurt the league/cricket really bad. Tariq with his SHXXTY mgmnt and looting the league money and Adnan by filing the law suit and having our well earned money being spent to fight the law suit (which is nothing but an ego battle between Adnan and Tariq) and WE have to PAY for their crap!! IS THAT FAIR??
We all suspect that Tariq and his Mgmnt has been ripping us apart, but who is up to pay a lot more money every year so Tariq and Adnan can go to court and settle their disputes at expense of our earned money?
I think league needs a new leader and i dont care who it is. As long as it's not Adnan, Tariq. Poor Farhat cant even manage his pants, how will he manage to run the league? Somebody said that president has to be strong who can stand up and take ShXt from teams, well then may be you should look at Pak because the Mafia group certainly have no manners or magmnt skills, but for sure know how to make some body shut their ho** who speaks against them. But I dont think anybody would wana see this league run by Rashid...
I will stick with Jaggi/Tushar/Romeen/Vikram as potential candidates, unless somebody has other suggestions? May be Shiraz from Rogers?
I don't know why everyone keep getting it mixed up that it is Adnan vs Tariq. I guess no one read my comment where I stated that I will continue to run against this corrupt organization, until a new candidate emerges. Don't get it twisted folks and try to make this look like drama.
Note: People on this blog who are claiming to be buddy buddy with Jaggi, if he decides to run. A special message, you can't even post under your real identity, how can you stand next to him come election time? Don't be a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
This may come as old news to many of you, but we would like to give you an update on the status of the lawsuit that was filed against MCC by Akbar Khan and Adnan Baig last year.
The lawsuit was thrown out last Fall -- "dismissed without prejudice" in legal parlance . This was the second -- and final -- dismissal of the lawsuit. You may recall that Messrs. Khan and Baig had earlier filed a motion to have the results of our 2006 elections overturned; in that case, too, the judge found the complaints without merit. Given the way the American judicial process works, the plaintiffs had the right to appeal. We learned from our attorney a few weeks back that the appeal had not been filed. As a result, the lawsuit is finally over, with a resounding victory for MCC. We have had to make no compromises, whatsoever, to the plaintiffs in the process.
Despite how ridiculous the case was, it did cost MCC a lot of money. Our legal bills added up to almost $40,000, which as you know, is a huge portion of annual budget. In practical terms, this has denied our community a number of benefits, which include delaying (or even altogether cancelling) ground renovations and the inability to have 2 neutral umpires in games.
There is a lesson in this for all of us: We are a community of cricketers who simply want to play and enjoy the game. Such petty infighting and recriminations will only serve to hurt all of us. In the end, the only people to benefit from this whole affair were the attorneys.
We would like to thank to all of those who stood with us and on the side of common sense during this. We hope we can now all get back to the business of cricket.
can u beleive that $40000 down the drain imagine what change that could have brought to our cricket.
Screw present mngmt for not giving adnan what he wanted to see.....and screw adnan for wanting what he wanted. Adnan im sure u spent a lot money on this too....if you could have just used that same money to get 21votes instead of 10...common what is MCC coming down tooo... at the end of all of this cricket and us players that love this game dearly are getting the worst of it...
Few idea for new incoming management, they should ratify the constitution such that no one candidate can hold office for more that 2 or 3 consecutive years for president post that way we always have inflow of fresh blood and new ideas It also gives ample time for the new elected management to implement the ideas page. we spent so much time and effort on that it just bugs me that nothin has been done its time for change and over haul
Jaggi/Tushar/Romeen/Vikram suggested by bloggers are very good choices these guys are well respected not only for their playing abilities for their respective teams but for their impeccable personalities They are cool as it can get these guys are relentness in their pursuit of perfection and if they can infuse that into their MCC management only then this league will move forward it sometimes feel we are just stagnated and it just started to stink a litle bit..we pay about 2300 dollars (Wow! that lot of money) I hope every team and who is reading this blog communicate this info to their respective teams and other teams that don't know about what's going on and garner the support for next elections and bring about that change which is long due Change is always beautiful thing forget the past what could be done and what cannot be important issue is what can be done from now...moving on forward...
40K DAMN...so hold on...i still have some problem doing math...
total fees 2300x50 teams = 115,000
law suite cost = 40k new pitches = 10k (say)
new additional cost in 2006 = 50k
additional money 2006-2005 = 15k due to increase in fees.
no banquet+trophies = $10k (say) (i can't imagine it being more then that)
i don't remember anything we did not do last year that we did every previous year. So what is this management talking about. What did we do with those additional 35k every year?
Adnan said "A special message, you can't even post under your real identity, how can you stand next to him come election time? Don't be a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. " Thats your problem right there...
You can't win an election by instilling fear...you need to gain respect. You definitely lost the last bit I had...thanks.
I like a lot of your ideas, I definitely like the way you are standing up, getting your team ,giving other people chances. Those are all good, but you need to be a leader, not a dictator, got to earn the respect. I dont wanto get into a mudslinging affair with you...
Anhoest query, excellent job in probing. This is what we need not those who can't answer a simple question and take conversations to different paths. Stick to reality timepass and tango.
I am so glad that people here agree that Tariq Vs Adnan for next elections is not the best choice. Both dictators. You do it their way or your out the door. My question to Adnan is that he cost the league 40K (WHICH teams HAD TO PAY) and what did come out of suit?? Since you seem to have a lot of money (taking your team to LA, and you must have paid equivalent money 40k or so to your lawyer) and you have the PAIN in your heart for us/cricket, do you feel ashamed that you caused us to pay this extra money??? Are you going to make a donation to the league for 40k so it can be returned to the teams since YOU caused it due to your STUPID battle between Tariq? Why didnt you appeal and keep fighting for our "rights" and cost another 40k to midwest league?
That's all i got to say. I really wish we have sensible people up for elections next year, people we know and people we respect. Not these two freaking dictators.
Adnan, You are trying to prove to us that the current management is bad. We already know that. So stop wasting your time. Do you even take others opinions (that contradict your opinions) into consideration? Or is it more like, "Thats the bottom line, because Adnan says so"?
Again get it through your head timepass that I am not looking to compete if there is another candidate emerges. Therefore your comment that I need to earn respect and should not be a dictator, is crap. Let me shed some light on my one legged... comment, what we have seen through out is a lot of talk. Believe me, during 2006 I touched a lot of different people in this league, but their answer to me was the same. All of them told me that they don't want to be exposed before the elections, but they will come forward as soon as I win the election. That's not the way it is suppose to work and unless we change that, this administration will continue to leverage fear and the league would continue its path towards disaster. Stand up, identify yourself. Let everyone know that you are real and not affraid. The day you get rid of this fear of being identified, that will be the day the tide would turn. ================================ Adnan, You are trying to prove to us that the current management is bad. We already know that. So stop wasting your time. Do you even take others opinions (that contradict your opinions) into consideration? Or is it more like, "Thats the bottom line, because Adnan says so"? ================================= Tango, I only talk to real people.
I am not sure how can you guys question Adnan's character when you don't even know him. I have known him for last 6 yrs and have tremendous respect for his straight forwardness and honesty. He is not into playing games or twisting stories, thats why maybe he is not a good candidate for President.
The whole lawsuit thing was very unfortunate and definitely not required. Also, it was not only Adnan who was responsible for the lawsuit but the whole UCC was responsible. Having said that it was MCC that instigated the lawsuit not UCC. I don't want to repeat what has been said so many times and I did mention about it during the first AGM. We terminated the lawsuit because nothing positive was coming out of it. None of the other members cared about what is being done with funds or representation of MCC talent at regional or national levels. We took in our own hands of giving ourselves and some of the MCC talent chance of playing in these tournaments, rather then wasting our time and money in lawsuits.
Yeh the campain has begun!!!. If we get new management how many of the support staff will stick around with the new guys. for everyone who want to run for president put up your "If I were president". lets see what we can expect so we can start lobbying for you??
Last year, I umpired few of the games and during the final settlement, I was told that I will be getting a certain amount. This was less as per my calculation. I told this to Sohail Alvi and he told that they had reduced the Umpiring fee per game to accomodate the lawsuit charges. I told this to my captain and he raised this issue before Tariq. And Tariq told that they had not reduced the umpiring fee coz of lawsuit, but it was because of other infrastructure costs that came up last year ...
As per this, it seems like Tariq did not plan to use the MCC money for the lawsuit ...
Some great feedback and sharing of ideas. While we get everybody's input on making the league better by perhaps changing the management. It's my understanding that this current management has been in place for many many years ... this is not a good sign for any organization because with time ideas get stagnant, also with time comes Dictatorship mentality which basically originates from the fact that they end up thinking that We have done so much for this league so we own it.
I agree that Tariq has done wonderful things over the years but now I think his vision of developing this league and taking it from Good To Great has taken a backseat.
Among many things I see a need for imporovement in the following arena:
1. I no longer see a commitment to improve things and Cricket. Perfect example is how players get selected for tournaments. This leagues just does not give a proper chance for people to compete for a spot.
2. This league is very reactive than being proactive. In order to be proactive you have to have a vision and a well thought strategy. Thinking and making decision on the fly gets old after few years. Take for example the start of this seasion, this management procastinates till the end. We should have the schedule and shit done by early Feb and not May.
3. Creative ideas never get nurtured or launched. Nor people outside of koolaid drinking management are given a chance to make a difference or provide feedback.
4. There is no formal / civil way for members to provide feedback to management to improve upon.
5. This league is doing a horrible job levraging the bright people that it has as members.
6. This is the worst fact of all. This league has a attitude and mentatlity that if Tariq does step down this MCC will fall apart. I say this as hogwash as everyone is dispensible. There are many smart leaders that will step up once there is regime change.
7. Management style is very hostile towards people that do not think like them.
Next time I will share some thoughts on what we may look for in a good President'e
Adnan, I hold no personal grudge against you or anyone and I'm not hiding behind a nick name. I use the blog to have a good day's fun, nothing more or less. I didnt even say anything against you until you brought up the point of one legged ass kicking (would be pretty interesting). I thought you came out a bit rude and thats all I pointed out. I did get the point of you not contesting in case of a valid candidate and I respect that thought. I can talk crap about you or anybody in here behind this nick, but I personally dislike that. I have never done that and will never try that either. About the elections next year, yes, I'm definitely interested in supporting a good candidate and I'll come forth for the same when time comes, have no qualms about it. Meanwhile, I'm gonna stick with my nick and have some fun in here.
wow.......the blog is heating up. Guys i know a guy who said that if he become a president he don't want any money from the league for adminstration cost but he give a donation of $10k or may be more for the improvement of cricket.His name is chitranjan reddy from peoria. Asmar i don't wanna offend u or anything but u r the only player who got selected in that trail and there are some player who perform better then u in the trail do not get selected. About 90% of the team went to L.A. Open didn't even bother to show-up so i don't know why the league waste so much time taking the trails they can just give u a call and pick u why calling all those other players and waste their important time if they wanna pick only 1 person from the trail.
People in this league will always say Adnan is not a good person to run this league my comments to that is atleast he got balls. You guys were asking jaggi to stand in the next election, my Question to jaggi is he was the part of the adminstration so what r the reason to quit, did u resign because u don't like the way the adminstration running the league or some personel reason or too much burden on u because the persident & vice-persident r both out of towners & r u still the part of adminstration or not plz clarify.
"A few of you knew this earlier.. I officially stepped down as the General Secretary of our league at the second AGM. I have a lot of personal commitments for this year and didnt want to take up the role knowing that I couldnt do justice to it. I will be transitioning all my responsibilities to my replacement."
So, Alpesh, Who do you think is right about the reason for reduction of umpire fees?? Tariq or Sohail. Or, did your captain just blow some hot air to you? This is the kinda crap that gets the blood boiln?.
Mehul, I agree with you. Adnan is a good cricketer and I am sure he is very nice to you for all these years since your his team member and close friend, I heard SaddamH was really loving to his family and friends as well? It's different when I have to imagine him running the league..(a very scary thought) Adnan is always asking people to show their identity, sounding more like "if i only knew who you were....". In the end he looks even more stupid because is there anybody who will show their identity just because "adnan" asked to do so? Might work that way in United but wont work anywhere else! Just have some fun and chill out
The league states it spent 40K for the lawsuit, but as i understand there were only 2 or may be 3 court dates?? What kind of Lawyer did the league hire who demanded that much money for 2-3 dates? Or was there SO MUCH work lawyers had to do for judge to decide there is nothing in the case? Did it really cost 40K or is the league just making it all up so Tariq can pay for his flights to Chicago?
I wonder how much United had to pay for their suit to see how much league might have had to spend to defend? It doesnt matter if it was Khan, Adnan or whole UCC who started the lawsuit, bottom line is that we players had to pay from our pockets for YOUR issues with Tariq. We all know the history there... That reflects bad on "United Group" that you started a fight spent tons of Money of yours and the league, and then left the battle...If you beleive in yourselves and were so desparate to make a change, should have continued your appeals and fight.
If United Group doesnt hesitate to spend thousands of your own earned money, WASTE IT and then forget about it. I wonder WHAT WOULD happen if you were running he league and you have all this league money which is there to spend?? More ego fights and more law suits???
To sum up, I really wish we see some new faces in Management who are qualified to do so. Not our good old dictators and looters.
Any about LA open, the only players who goo to LA are people (not even players) who are liked by Tariq. I feel your pain Abhi, this will most likely change when we have "people's managment" and not dictatorship running the league.
Any by the way, before i am asked to reveal my identity, sorry wont be doing so. Hence dont waste a posting.
I am trying to figure out why we have to pay 2300.00 membership Here is what i can account for per team
Umpires $500.00 Grounds $500.00 Ball $150.00 Banquet $150.00 Misc $200.00 Total $1500.00 Who want to help me account for the $900.00.. for teams who pay $2400.00 membership. Management can we have the Detail financial statements published on this page as was promised a month ago. This will ease a lot of frustration for all who think their monies are being mispent.
Do anyone know that Tariq & his buddies do a lawsuit against USACA i wanna know if our managment is not spending our hard earned money in that lawsuit & if they r they should atleast ask the teams .......any info about that.
================================== Adnan, I hold no personal grudge against you or anyone and I'm not hiding behind a nick name. I use the blog to have a good day's fun, nothing more or less. ================================= Might work that way in United but wont work anywhere else! Just have some fun and chill out ================================ Good to know that Timepass and icecold are just here for fun, therefore their blogging should not be taken seriously.
"President has to be able to deal with multiculture... If he cant then he has already failed."
'multicultural'? Are you saying that all Indians, Pakistani's and West Indians act in one particular way? Because thats pretty idiotic. It all depends from person to person. So this multi-cultural thing is all crap. Lets put it this way; the President should be able to handle all the 'uncivilized goons'.
ps. That doesn't mean we elect an 'uncivilized goon'
================================ Do anyone know that Tariq & his buddies do a lawsuit against USACA =================================== Yes Sir, MWCC was part of Council of League Presidents (CLP) which brought a lawsuit against USACA.
Tango said "So who all are on the board this year?" As of last year, we had Tariq(ofcourse), Sohail, Humayun, Jaggi, Athreya, Shashi, Kiran, Shiraz , Magnus and that guy from Hammond(his cell phone would always go on during thhe AGM which was irritating). Out of this Jaggi quit, Athreya quit , Shashi quit, Kiran was never there, Shiraz was night tournament only, Magnus did a little with WP ground and the Hammond guy did nothing. All we have left is the trio of Tariq, Sohail and Humayun.. 2 of them are not in Chicagoland.. one of them is not even in the midwest.
Adnan... Well you can tell us how much you paid .. If management said they paid 40K and you are trying to show you are better than management you should be more open dont you think? Seems like if you were management we will be saying this line.. "the more things change the more they remain the same"
"If I were your president" Here is what you will see. a)Banquet will be held no later than 2nd week of November. 1)First AGM in Jan of the year. 2)2nd AGM by mid March. 3)Pre season scheduled games for all teams who wants to participate in pre-season. First two weeks of April. (this will be of no cost as you will umpire these game yourselves) 4)League officially starts 3rd weekend in April. 5)All teams will be playing in colored outfits. 6)White balls of high quality will be used even if it cost $10.00 more than what we use today. 7)Power plays as we see in modern day ODI's. 7) umpiring Fees will 75.00 Div1, $70 Div2. $60.00 30/30. $50.00 night. 8)There will be 3 Divisions. Div 1&2 14 teams each. All others Div 3. To go with this we will still have 30/30 and night tourney. 8)There will be two tournaments a year for Div 1,2,3 & 30/30. a)Regular season 10 games With play offs will finish around 2nd week of August. b)A world cup format of 8 groups of 4 teams each. Top 12 teams from 1 & 2, top 6 from 3 and 2 from 30/30 auto qualifys. If a team don't want to play more then we replace by next available by position starting with Div 1. b1)for team that do not qualify it's payers can play for any team that has quealified. b2)this will be 3 regular games. 8 group winners and 4 wild cards (NRR) to play offs. this will last 6 weeks. end of September season over!!!. c1) I feel this format will give teams an incentive to finish good if the want to make it to the second tour, 10)there will be a players association. Panel of 5 selected by the players. No executive can be on this panel. a)This panel will be your union and all players issues will be addressed by them to management. b)This panel will be re-elected every year VS management will be 2 years. c) Move for constitution to make sure only the players association can sue MWCC. (I will work with this elected panel to make sure we never ever end up in court). 11)You will have a full finacial statement by June 1st of the year. Final detail statement will be given out at the banquet so that teams can be prepared for first AGM. 12)Fees will be based upon toureys entered & overhead cost to run the league. 13)Exclusive rule will still be there but for Every Event whether it be charity, Usaca, MWCC or space aliens and MWCC is invited I will make sure we send a team. Maybe 2 if allowed. 14)There will be some kind of all star event to show case out talent and select a core team to Represent MWCC. 15)work with everyone towards the development of cricket in the midwest Zone so we can all enjoy this game to it's fullest. 16)My executive body will be of individuals with the ability to fill their position to it's fullest with your help. 17)Spend our monies wisely for the benifit of Cricket.
I promise you i will do all of this and more as see fit!. will you vote for me? and who will like to be join my Executive body or special events commettee?. Most of you have my personal info so we can keep this off the records if you want?.
Rup, I like what you have there. Just be careful when you pick up your colleagues... We need people like you, jaggi etc who are in cricket for the cricket not for the MONEY or power.
I will vote for you rup.. But this has to go.. "b1)for team that do not qualify it's payers can play for any team that has quealified." What we doing here is rewarding failed teams
"A world cup format of 8 groups of 4 teams each. Top 12 teams from 1 & 2, top 6 from 3 and 2 from 30/30 auto qualifys. If a team don't want to play more then we replace by next available by position starting with Div 1."
So RUP is running for president this time....who else is coming forward? Except adnan?
Adnan sounds more like a elementary school principal.
--------------- P.S. couldn’t help noticing that, PART B in RUPs promises. It look like after trying getting into Div I for countless years, he is trying to find a backdoor.
b1)for team that do not qualify it's payers can play for any team that has quealified." What we doing here is rewarding failed teams -------------------- If your team don't qualify do you think you will find a place on the team that qualified?. Then again it will be up to the teams how this plays out?.
Tango..said "A world cup format of 8 groups of 4 teams each. Top 12 teams from 1 & 2, top 6 from 3 and 2 from 30/30 auto qualifys. If a team don't want to play more then we replace by next available by position starting with Div 1."
Unnecessary! ---------------- Why..we need 32 teams.
Neanderthal said.. P.S. couldn’t help noticing that, PART B in RUPs promises. It look like after trying getting into Div I for countless years, he is trying to find a backdoor. --------------------------------- I don't know which one of the B's but ICC ultimate objective is to have fun ad at the same time win. If we make it to 1 or three it will not change the way we see or play the game.
now lets take race into the equations.. Tell the truth. HOW MANY OF PAK, Ind players will vote for a West Indian RUP? Since no one knows who you are you can tell the truth.. I will vote for him...
Tango the way i see it is there are teams who don't want to play the 14 games so these teams will fall out after the first event. So we have a second quick tour for the guys who want to grind it out longer. Also seeing the second event is so short it anyone's trophy.
Fast_N_Furious said... now lets take race into the equations.. Tell the truth. HOW MANY OF PAK, Ind players will vote for a West Indian RUP? Since no one knows who you are you can tell the truth.. I will vote for him... ----------
thats BS. we all know RUP well enough. i bet as much as you knew about tariq and jaggi or may be even more because he has made a name for himself in midwest.
fast N furious...i think this is not about NOT knowing him, it is more about NOT BEING ONE OF US.
MWCC is one of the largest (if the the largest) cricket league in the United States. All other major leagues play at least 13 games. Southern California league plays 16, New Jersey Cricket league plays 16 etc. The other smaller leagues aka. Ohio, Minnesota, UCC, Michigan play fewer games, but all these leagues are much smaller and far less competitive than ours. That is why I feel that if we want to be known as one of the big-boys, then we can't reduce the number of games in our season. Unless afcorse, majority of the teams want a reduced schedule. I don't know if I'd want to pay $2400 to play 8-10 games in a season.
I feel that the umpiring fees were reduced to accomodate some of the law-suit expenses.
Nice agenda Rup ... Yeah, even I feel there should be limit on number of teams in Div 1 n Div 2. Also the scheduling part has to be very transparent. It there are only 14 teams, then they can play a round robin format.
Even in Div 2, this year there are 26 teams. They could had divided the 8 aways teams into 2 groups. And then formed 2 groups of 13 each .. based on last year rankings ...
=================================== Adnan.. what happens to your LA bound team if Tariq picks you, Mehul and Faisal for LA Open. --------------- now that is a knock out. lets see what adnan got to say ------------------------------- We have notified the mgmt that we are not available for 2007 L.A. Open Tournament.
Tango, Those are things i will like to see done. I also stated will work with all to make sure what we do is what's the players want done. Of course you can't always make all happy but we can compromise?
"12)Fees will be based upon toureys entered & overhead cost to run the league." This is what I said about fees.
Rup, in case you do become President. Don't change the division format over night. Inform teams in the beginning of the season that, 'next season' we will be having the three division format. Wait for a year and let teams fight it out before you relegate anyone.
Tango, Good point If so happens that i become predident it will be impossible to to implement all the ideas I mentioned. The ones that are the easiest to implement will the first off and i see relegation to accomodate the 3 div the last thing so it will be till 2008 where the full effect takes place. what I see in 2008 is 3 teams relegated. Once Div 2 and 3 are formed then in 2009 we have 4 relegated for 1, 2 up from 2 and 2 down to 3. This will give us 14 teams in 1, 14 in 2 and the rest in 3. Then in 2010 we are back to 2 relegated all over. here is how it will look 2008 Div 1.. 17+2-3=16 Div 2.. 2+Top 12=14 Div 3.. Everyone else + new teams 2009 Div 1..16+2-4=14 Div 2..14+2-2+14 Div 3..+ & - 2 + all new teams
RUp what about accounting? I understand you are accountant by profession how about this idea..
We need to have it as transperant as possible to all memebers. To achieve this, we need have a non-profit account in some bank for MCC, through a independent account firm, with no one person having direct access to it. Everything that is take out of this account, should at least three executive memebers signing off and they should provide proper receipts to the independent accounting firm, for tally. That way we can have every penny accounted for and make it easy on every one. Almost a 100,000 buget is quite a lot of money, for any one not to get greedy...
Cricket, I feel the treasure od this league must have a thorough knowledge of the principles of accounting thus proper doccumentation and reporting will be done. I do not think there is need for three signatures once there is sufficient doc to show the monies were spent for MWCC reasons. There will be two reports for the players to look at. Semi and anual. If they have any q's the can address it with the players association.
some ppl say the lawsuit is personal feud between adnan vs. tariq. if so then why did tariq use league money to fight personal battle? also if tariq used league money to fight personal battle, why adnan is blamed?
adnan, did you or akbar use others money? i am asking because mehul mention that all of united cc is fighting this lawsuit. did others in united cc contribute their money to your personal lawsuit? can someone from united reply? i assume all members of united cc have full balance-sheet with them, since they are asking the same of mcc .......................
Fast n' That will be correct. ICC gives out a financial statement to all of it members before our AGM starts. This statement is a complete reflection of our finances from the Last AGM to current.
No money from UCC funds were dispersed towards the lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of United Cricket Club which was approved by the members of UCC to obtain MWCCC financial records.
so lawsuit was filed on behalf of united but not used ucc club funds. but even though lawsuit was filed against mcc management only, but they used mcc league funds ???
So MWCC doe not realy exist. just the name. you see, a non profit org cannot exceed xx amount of $$ of profit at the end of the year or you have to file with the FEDS. i hope this was not the reason for non Renewal. Or did we open a new corp and have this running as a private corporation. Wonder why management did not share this info with us??. The more you dig into what's happening right to more S*** keeps coming up.
TIME......u make no sense. lawsuit was againts MCC mgmt. it is not againts tariq or others for something they did personally. so i think they were right o use MWCC money. dont know about 40 K though. to be honest i dont know much about behind the scene stuff about the lawsuit. but they are allowed to use MWCC money.
maybe we should ask Adnan for 40K.
RUP....you have started sounding like adnan more and more. cursing and degrading of current mgmt is not the only way to win. put your ideas forward and let people weigh them.
"RUP....you have started sounding like adnan more and more. cursing and degrading of current mgmt is not the only way to win. put your ideas forward and let people weigh them." ------------------- Neanderthal, How did you arrive at the above conclusion or you always judge people this way My objective is to get the facts out. Cursing Mangement..no. and will not. Remember Enron.. no one had the guts to blow the whistle so Thousands of people lost?. In our case hundreds of cricketers will loose if we don't let management elected, that we are expecting X, Y, & Z from them. If they can't deliver then we need them out. By the way remember I said earlier, this is a campaign to be elected. Are you expecting me to give out candies???.
================================== RUP....you have started sounding like adnan more and more. cursing and degrading of current mgmt is not the only way to win. put your ideas forward and let people weigh them. =================================== Dude majority will sound like that come '08.
Tango, Because of cricket a lot of us probalby has the wife as head..we just fill in once in a while if cricket allows??. Co Founder of ICC and current Captain. 15yr..14yrs captain Special event cordinator for IGCO. An orginazation that we have that helps keep our familes and friends together. 9 of my 17 years working in the US for two large corp, I have been in managemnt. I am currently a manger overseeing a Dept. Above all, it my love for cricket that has kep me going in the cricket world.
neaderthal, adnan used his own money for whatever the hell came in his mind. since he didn't use any of my money, who am i to say waht he does w/ his dough and his time?
mgmt used your and my money for the lawsuit. i gave it to mcc to play cricket, not for anyone's lawsuit. certainly fighting lawsuit is not essential to organizing cricket. it is only essential for clearing mgmt's name, which i don't care abt. as i said, i only care abt cricket. so why is my money being used for something i don't care abt ???
one final q to bloggers: do u think membership will decrease next year, since lawsuit expense it over?
========== it is not againts tariq or others for something they did personally. ==========
of course it is. if it was tariq's decision to not disclose balance-sheet to member clubs, then it is something he did personally....... should his own decisions not to be held against him personally ???? what logic is this?
There has been some talk here regarding Farhat taking charge of the league. Let me set this straight for you, Farhat sheikh is by far the worst captain in our league. He is reactive rather than proactive and constantly gets into it with the opposition and the umpire. Last year, in a crucial match, instead of leading from the front, he batted all the way down #11 because he was afraid of certain pace bowlers. He never takes responsibilities for his actions and constantly blames others for them. The absolute worst! He has a shady character and had problems keeping his pants on during a confrontation with Joe Green last year. Poor guy can't even keep his emotions in check and some of you expect him to run the league. That's just being too optimistic.
Pukka punjabi.... your statement about farhat sheikh is look like a personnel grudge towars him the stats of Muslim gym totally oppose your statement he actually make Muslim gym a playoff team with the same bunch of guys a year before that as we all know muslim was fighting for a spot in Div 1.
Midwest Alliance beat CER champions Minnesota Cricket Association in first round match. Midwest Alliance 156 all out in 30 overs. MCA 108 all out in 25 overs. Next game Sunday 05.26.07 1:00 p.m CST against United Cricket Conference. GO Midwest!
Midwest Alliance lost its Semi Final match to United Cricket Conference. Midwest Alliance batted first and scored 157 runs in 30 overs. United Cricket Conference chased the total in 28.2 overs at a loss of 8 wickets.
If ppl are done bashing management etc lets discuss the fixtures for next weekend. Is it a mistake in the schedule or are S Louis playing Wildacts on sat and then traveling to Hanover Park to play Milwaukee on sun? Some really good div 1 matches coming up. Flames v Pak, Purdue v Challangers, Capitol v United, MUCC v Bears, Wildcats v StL
Abhi, there's in no personal grudge on my part. I am merely stating facts. Farhat is a low class loser, and to even contemplate with the idea of him running the league is absurd. As I said, he's having troubles with his pants, how's he going to manage the league. The league needs leadership, not someone who can't even man up to a certain pace attack, thus batting at #11.
Farhat was "sick" that day as he has told everyone thats why he came at #11. during their qtr fina with Pak, he did come in middle order and scored a fifty (surviving a beamer which hit him on his chest followed by cple of bouncers). After that over, i beleive Shahid shouldnt have allowed to bowl...
But as far as running the league, i agree that Farhat is nowhere capable of being a president. I will still stick with my initial picks of Jaggi/romeen/tushar and any body similar.
It was a cloudy, rainy day as you'd remember if you were there. Ball can slip at any time .. Brett Lee bowls a beamer every 3-4 matches, it happens. Why don't you ask Shahid the next time you see him?
Guys, we have an upcoming game with Chicago Giants. We are new comers in MCC. Could anybody give us scouting report on the Giants? May be rup or any team who has played them recently could give us lowdown on the Giants.
Hey Jaggi. If St. Louis is going to be playing at Hanover park on Sunday then that means that scheduling committee has made a mistake in our schedule as Chicago Acers vs Jaguars is also scheduled to be played at Hanover Park on Sunday. Could someone let me know on how to fix this problem??
Masta, Send an e-mail to the scheduling commettee. Cric-lover, Giants is one of those teams where you realy can't tell. there are what we call a fighting bunch. they play hard no matter what the situation is. We only scored 76 and except for opener Yaseen everyone else look ordinary. Could be the kept their better batsman for last. Yaseen looks like an agressive bat so you must bowl length and line??. their bowling is nothing to fear but they are consistant so patience will be the advise. Hope this helps and good luck.
Can any one tell me what section of the rules or constitution says you can only request info or sue as a Team and not as an individual of MCC. I went through all of it and can't locate..then again I am not too smart. Help...Rup
Check out Article 8, Section 4 on http://www.midwestcricket.org/go/aboutUs/constitution.htm. This section about the Treasurer mentions "Shall provide a formal information to any member per request for inspection, books of accounts at all reasonable times.".....I think "member" means a Team club as an entity.
I don't think there is any such think as "suing as a team" :)....If you got the money and the extra time to deal with all that BS, I guess that is all you would need.
From what I understand, Akber started the initial law suit asking for a Financial report, among other things. MCC countered by saying he was not part of any team. United joined that suit so they could then jointly ask for the financial statements.
Rest of you, if I mis-stated anything above, please correct me.
Thanks Swetal, Me suing MCC..will never happen. I am just doing some research for my personal and ICC use. don't need to waste any of my hard earned $$ on MCC. Just curious as to why we still have not gotten a financial report for 2006 and we are coming up on dedline for 2007 dues???. We got sued over this crap once, spent over 40K to get out if it and looks like we are setting ourselves for another one.. See the budgeted 20k for legal fees 2007..like to know why.
When I said "If you got the money and the extra time to deal with all that BS, I guess that is all you would need." ......that "you" should have read "any of us as individuals".
I am with you on the suing part. For sure, da wife would sue my ass first! Luv this game and luv playing in the MCC but not at the expense of lawsuits.
We asked Adnan to tell us how much it cost him but he never responded. May be he can give his idea whether it sounds reasonable that league is telling is the cost to defend lawsuit was 40k?
I dont know if any bloggers out there related to legal field wana comment...
Seeing is believing folks. If MWCC can show you a cancelled check for 40k to the lawyers then that is what they paid. Why is everyone on this blog asking everyone but management on how much was spent? And if you have asked the management, but did not get an answer or a proof then you know there is something fishy. Let's just leave it at that. We have adopted a passive stance on the accountability, why stop now? One more thing I want to add. Why all of a sudden there is a issue that mgmt spent 40k on this lawsuit? What about the times when there was no lawsuit and still money matters looked suspicious? How come no one stood up in the AGM and requested to look into it? As I have been saying, it is easy to hide behind a computer and use an alias to post concerns and act like you care. It is a different story when you stand up in front of a crowd and demand explanation. This is what spearates boys from men.
Adnan... I am not with you on this. There are no doubts about how much the mgmt spent.. it is 40 freakin K$. What we need is how much you spent.. is it that complicated to answer it? Separating boys from men.. I wouldnt go that far man. I would take a non-confrontational approach. You seem like you get pissed off everytime someone asks you a simple question. I can tell you this, making the league(all of us) pay $40freakingK is not about being a "man". Get that point about people hiding behind aliases out of the way, its old stuff.
Cricket for me is a past time. I play the game because I have a good time. Now if I am dissatisfied with management, or if I feel that management stealing my money, I'll either join a different league, I'll cultivate a different hobby, or I’ll vote for someone else in the next elections. I don’t plan to lead or even be part of the crusade, since I have other more important things to worry about. If you think I’m a ‘coward’ for doing that, then well….good for you. I think you’re a moron for spending $40,000 (assuming you spent as much as management) on a lawsuit. But who am I to care what you do with your money? Maybe you enjoyed seeing MWCC drain 40K on your personal battle with Tariq.
The elections last year were nothing more than a place where people with over-inflated egos turned to, and threw around their weight for no apparent reason. People didn’t vote for Tariq because they were scared to vote against him, they voted for him because his only opponent scared them even more. Instead of owing up to your stupidity in the last elections, you’re blaming everyone for not having ‘balls’. Well let me tell you something, God gave us ‘balls’ to have children; he gave us a brain to think. You might have been President had you known this before.
Actual conversation after 3rd ODI between India-Pak played in Lahore Paskistan on 13 Feb 2006
Rameez: So Inzy, disappointed with your performance today? Inzy: Bismilla-e-rehman-e-rahim. Thank you allah.ya the indian batsman is play very good today. we is try very hard but is not win the game.
Rameez: Any words for Dhoni?
Inzy: Ya dhoni is play very well. He is hit his shot very hard in our gaps. In start, we is protect our gaps very well. the grass is also thick.. but dhoni is split our gaps with his bat.
Rameez: Another ordinary bowling performance? Inzy: Ya our balls is loose. the bowler is went for many run. Asif is bowled well. Also, after some shots the ball is out of shape. umpire is not give another ball.. it is tough to play with one ball.
Rameez: Dropped catches.. did that prove costly? Inzy: ya the ball is not stick to our hands. we is practice a lot sticking our bat in our hands.. but now we is more practice sticking balls in our hands.
Rameez: Any plans for the next match? Inzy: ya India is on top but we is try to bounce on our back. Insha allah we is play better.
i totally agree with you. A wise man once told me that tariq won not because he was good but his opponents were the worst. i wonder how adnan got even 10 votes. must be from the people who were really pissed off with tariq.
most of us here to play cricket on weekends and have some fun during the week on the blog and make smart ass comments once in a while. about the mgmt, i wish out mgmt were not corrupted. i wish we can find a mgmt who is not going to be corrupted.
but I do not wish to pay even a penny on stupid things like law suits.
had adnan paid a PR company 40 K instead wasting on a lawsuit, they would have boosted his image and given him couple of tips about leadership and who knows he would have been the president of MCC.
Lawsuit took away from a lot of good things Tariq could have done for this league but that is in the past. Can we change what has already happened? I am sure the answer is no. So can we just dump this conversaton of lawsuit and move on to bigger and better things.
ELECTION 2008 - RUP RUP RUP: I was reading your ideas on improving the league sounds interesting. I wish you best of luck and will fully support you provided you can enlist proven public servant and positive role models such as Jaggi, Shashi etc. If you can put together a team that believes in these 5 things then I think you have a very good chance.
People Quality Integrity Teamwork Performance
TIP: Key to success is for your team will be to demonstrate how you will make a difference. Because talk is cheap. People need to see your plan. Most plan fails because they are not actionable and measurable. Also because management ignores the need to continuosly solicit feedback from people they are elected to serve.
Being a President is not easy, it is a very thankless job. But if you have the will and you stand for improvement then nothing can stop you.
Enough with the lawsuit ...can we talk something else ???
We aint getting that money back if we discuss that in here....lets take that as lesson learnt..
Adnan, you've pissed enough people in here that I really doubt if you will even get 10 votes next time.
Talk about being emotional...you're the one who jumps on every little thing and gets ansi about your own tail..oh wait a minute...you lost that in last elections...
And dont start the alias crap again, its getting really old and boring...you might need one soon!
a. everyone upset on lost money. b. who took money? management c. why mgmt took money? no idea, no balance-sheet.
mgmt admit $40k of the our money spend on their (nor our) lawsuit against short-fat-man in mid-life crisis.....
d. who everyone angry with? short-fat-man who used own money.......
if u too stupid or weak to identify real theif then u deserve money stolen..............
btw, i did not get ans to previous ques: do u expect membership fee to decrease next year? $40k divided by 2 year lawsuit = $20k per year. $20k divided by 50 team = $400 per team membership decrease ????
tango, carrying on about how you understand everything and insluting others, makes you fell like you are really funny ;) your lack of wit along with the lack of knowledge is leading you into a very scary place. you say you don't take this too seriously yet continue to drone on and on... calling people short and fat, and yet saying at the same time you cant respect him for insulting others, you oxymoron! or should i just say you moron!!! atleast he has the guts to stand up for something he belives in and is willing to take on idiots like you who don't even know their brains from their balls!
Ok guys stop this nonsense about bashing management and Adnan and lawsuit talk (what the F!). And for those people who want Rup to be president, do you really know him? Do you want a loud mouth to be president who shoots off first and thinks later? See all of his posts from last year making claims upon claims as to how ICC was best team in the league and they were going to take the trophy and then he wasn't even man enough to admit that the better team won in the SF! Anyways, thats what AGM's are for voting etc. Can we talk CRICKET here please now?!
Straigt drive I guess i will not be geting your vote If I run for president??. you come on the blog talk crap and then hide behind "Can we talk CRICKET here please now?"!. I was and is still proud of ICC and their accomplisments. so my Loud mouth was because we are a good team and was expecting to win the trophy.
Looks as though the United faithful have to once again jump-in to the defense of their loudmouth leader. Ballsinbrain, why don't you sit down and slap some sense into Adnan? He's the one who keeps calling everyone a 'coward' for not using their real name. Which by the way would mean that even you are a coward. Take him aside and tell him, “Old man, don't start feeling like a rebel. Don't start thinking about everybody as a stereotype. Don't start feeling manipulated. In fact, you fall short to be worthy of anyone’s manipulation. I know you care. But no one likes you. Don’t project yourself to be the leader of the anti-Tariq front. A leader has followers. A herdsman has a herd of cattle. You never had a herd, except for one cow which has its testicles stuck in the head (knock knock ballsinbrain!)” Who knows, maybe he’ll listen to you.
Tango, it took you this long to come back with crap like that? You gotta do better than that. You are going on and on speaking in metaphors. You have nothing concrete to go on therefore you are trying to impress everyone with how eloquently you can dream up a story. You are somewhat of a Alice in Wonderland. Come back to reality brother.
tango, you continue to make no sense. but then i am being reduntant here. stop acting like you don't care and face the facts...you have no point. have not heard a logical argument from you yet. maybe you just go on and think with your balls and make babies with your brain. because from what i can tell is you haven't had any bush since bush had you!!! or perhaps you came out of the other oraphace and had plenty of that! you fudge packer, you...
Time said so rup and swetal, the only reason you guys would not sue is because u can't spare the money....... not because you believe the mgmt is honest....... -------------------------- The reaon I will not sue is my spare monies need to be spent on enjoyment for me and my family. Second I believe there is always room for negotiations if the communication link is open ended. Once I see the financials for 2006 then i will start judging the responsible parties.
Time, We have asked for statement but we have'nt received one and it June. We can get an anual one imagine asking for more. We need ground but where are we going to get the monies from to pay for more grounds?. Management has budgeted 20k for legal fees and only 3k for grounds??. looks like we have a better chance of getting sued than getting grounds..unless you know someone who will get us free grounds??
Rup, I was talking about what can be done to make the accounts more transparent. I know that the current management is acting up on us and not taking the responsibility of showing us the money, but we can't just get wild and revolt can we?
We can definitely choose another contender next elections.
So, they are not even sending the annual balance sheet these days.. Jaggi, I know you are not part of the management anymore, but can you voice this across for us please?
About the grounds, I made some calls and mostly its the Park Distt that deals with the grounds. Like Park Ridge Park Distt for instance. If we can come up with a committee and try to approach different park distts, maybe we can get one or even two grounds.
We have not tried yet have we? We dont have to pay the park distt all the time, sometimes they give it for recreational purposes.
what's the matter tango? aww, did i hurt your feelings?? let's cut the crap and talk about cricket! where the F are those financial? What's up with the allstar game? When is nite cricket starting?
...and what are our plans for sending players who did well during the CER tournament, to the USACA western region zone cmpetition, to be held in August in San Francisco??? Samarth Shah from United Cricket Club and Ruchir Saheba, Purdue Cricket Club have been named for Central East Zone XI. I want to know what is MWCC doing to expose our talent at a higher level?
there is my man again....i dont know which performance you are talking about...but for performance in MCC..checkout the last few year stats of people like asif
t_p, I will definitely pass on the message about the financial statements.
My 2 cents reg the grounds.. Park districts like to get specifics of the organization, the game, the ground, the pitch and most importantly referrals from other park districts. A lot of park districts are not aware of cricket and the requirements. We need to make sure we are fully prepared before we approach park districts for grounds. We first need to create a committee and equip them with all this information. Ehsan, who used to play for Suburban(he also was instrumental in getting the hanover park ground) said that you first need to build a relationship with the park district before you make them feel comfortable with the idea of pouring concrete in the middle of the ground. It can take time and hence the need for a good strategy before we approach park districts.
Neande??? You need to re-charge frequently. See, Samarth got selected because he was playing in the trials, the other 1 mil spinners were having tea and wathing us blog??. Who cares how good you are if you are not there to showcase no one will ever know??
and how do we know that they were not invited? also, did management announce that they will not ban the players who would participate in this tournament? by the way what is happening with MWCC's official LA team..the tournament is only month away...are there going to be trials?
and how do you know he did not ask them? could it be that they were afarid of repurcussions from current management? here we go again... spouting off b4 you know anything? isn't it so easy to take shots??? what would you propose as to putting the talent on display from mwcc, since you seem to know so much. and please name me another spinner besides asif, who is even close to samarth.
"i guess if adnan wins its going to be a UNITED show" __________________________________ so now you will tell us that mehul is not a good allrounder or adnan can't bat... and you have played so much cricket right? what have you done lately?
well i haven't been doing much of anything lately..:)). but for sure i know one thing i wouldnt do at all. i won't kiss my captains ass to be in the team.
well if you haven't done anything lately and are still playing this game, you must be doing something a lot more then kissing your cappy's ass. perhaps a reach around or a happy ending. how about a rust trambone...shall i go on? or you want to talk cricket? name me some spinners in the league better then samarth?
brainsfromball.....what you think "brain" might be cancer.....you are stupid and full of third class hatred. anyway UNITED got one good cricketer...mehul..thats all.... why dont you post scorecards for regionals so we can see who did well from UNITED
Congrats to Ruchir and Samarth. Who else played well in the tournament? No point in keeping us all in suspense, we can already see the pictures of players participating.
good comeback, i am stupid... what's the matter? can't take it. you wanna dish but can't take it? name me some spinners in the league? or do you want to continue talking out of your ass?
when you continue to make asinine statemnets without thinking them through you appear just as dense as your blogging name. keep this converstaion on a higher level and we can discuss good cricket here. ... can you please name some good spinners in this league?
================================= i guess dictator has summoned whole UNITED to blogs.......keep on bloggin anyway its not like you are going to win MWCC ================================= Why are you under false assumption that anyone who brings up legitimate issues is from United? Would it be safe to assume you are a hater since you grab every opportunity to take cheap shots???
---------- samarth shah? there are million better spinners in the league.i guess if adnan wins its going to be a UNITED show. ----------
I'm honored by the high praise, but you are just flattering me. I have long known that there are not a million, but a Billion better spinners than me in our league. If you count the chuckers, you can make it a TRillion. :-))
As for the nomination, let me assure you it was pure luck. Many of the trillion better players than me were invited, but opted out. I just happened to be at the right place, at the right time, and I was just plain lucky, that's all.
As for Adnan being biased towards UCC, I think Adnan is actually biased *against* UCC. Let me give you an example. I *specifically* asked him to send me to open the batting in the CER tourney, since I have opened in the past for UCC and for Urbana. But he sent me #11 in both games, a position I am not accustomed to.
In fact, I plan to sue Adnan for destroying my confidence. I have heard you have generously donated to other lawsuits against Adnan, so can you send me also some cash? Thanks in advance.
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having seen Adnan's batting, dont think he will be too successful in LA. Mehul on the other hand is an excellent all rounder and deserves to go to LA as one of the top MWCC's picks.
Would have been nice if Adnan and management were working together to promote cricket in Midwest. It will be a pity players going to LA from same league under two persons who cant stand each other?? What kinda image that will be?
To be honest, league needs a new leadership. We all have seen Tariq's Bull Sxxx and Adnan is too much of a politician..a lil too much (may be with power he might be worse than Tariq)
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There are other people in league which can be excellent candidates. I hope that players from experienced and mature teams like Wildcats, Challengers, Bears, Rogers Park, Pak Gym, ICC etc would move forward so that we dont pick a president that will be worse than now.
Does anybody agree/disagree or would it be Tariq Vs Adnan again next year?
Ice_cold,
How about Jaggi? Don't think he'll take up the responsibility. But he'll be a good President.
good one ICE_COLD,
i dont have a very good feeling about adnan from what i have seen. al least you can talk to tariq.
i would say someone like jaggi/romeen can do the job.
ICE_COLD,
i notice that you have PAK GYM and mature teams in the same sentence.
thts ODD.
"i notice that you have PAK GYM and mature teams in the same sentence"
LOL.. Thanks for catching my mistake there!!
But yes, i do agree that Jaggi/Romeen/Ajit/Tushar/vikram would be excellent candidates. People who are liked by everyone. Adnan's head is already up on skies even he isnt the president yet, imagine him being the President? I just hope next elections we pick up a President who will listen to people, easy to talk to and easily accessible (not somebody whose running the league from another freaking state!).
Well running the league is no joke. Can't just vote for someone because he is 'friendly'.
But Jaggi has it all. He's a good guy and a good organizer. I just hope he takes up the responsibility.
What say you Jaggi?
Tango, you said it right..."Running the league aint no joke".
Thats exactly why Jaggi/ Romeen can't be the president.
They are extremely nice guys, but we dont need a nice guy, we need a president.
A president should be mean and be able to take any shit thrown at ya..and thats why Tariq's being able to keep most of the teams.
I definitely think that we need a new president with a new management team, its time for a change.
But I don’t know if Adnan’s the right guy either, since he is shown enough negativity during last campaign.
We need a guy who can take the crap from all the teams, be able to handle the multi cultural team structure within our league.
I’ll get straight to the point, we want a guy who can handle the teams that have Indian, Pakistani and West Indian folks.
You name me one person who can deal with all of that…
time_pass,
Nice guys can be effective leaders. Its a different type of leadership, and can even be more effective at times.
Farhat from muslim for president!!!
YEAH BABY!!!!!!
bring on the change
Wasn't he the same guy who mooned the ref?
Thanks, but no thanks ;)
Jaggi,
let us know of your intentions, I'll even become your PR director for this blog :)
r u sure u were not that ump..
u remember it pretty well
You mean Joe Green?
Tango.. thank you for all the kind words. My wife should be reading your comment :)
Yes, like most of us here, I too am very passionate about cricket and our league.
I have not thought about elections next year. If I do decide to stand for elections, trust me the whole world will know :)
t_p, you bring an excellent point about the next president being able to handle the multicultural teams. It can get complicated, but, a good challenge nevertheless. I believe that if the President can keep cricket and the league above all other issues, things can get sorted.
Great, at least you haven't ruled it out.
just a thought....
since the last election... the present mgmt has realized they are definetly not making it for another term so bag everything while you can....i mean as soon as they won the election last year the fees went to 2300 and now 2400(i think)......no banquet either.
one other thing the mgmt knew they wont do a banquet thats why out of all these years they decided to hand the trophy for the winners at the ground....something to think abt...
how about the lawsuit costs. i am sure we lost a tonne in that. i am still all confused about this lawsuit.
can anybody shed some light on it...
Jaggi,
I'm glad you are not backing out from the challenge....maybe you'll kick some ass! :-)
Hey, if you decide to stand up, I'll be there next to you man...
Jaggi,
Come on man, you know we all love you. if you stand up, I think you will get a lot of support. You have some votes here on already.
Tariq and Adnan have both hurt the league/cricket really bad. Tariq with his SHXXTY mgmnt and looting the league money and Adnan by filing the law suit and having our well earned money being spent to fight the law suit (which is nothing but an ego battle between Adnan and Tariq) and WE have to PAY for their crap!! IS THAT FAIR??
We all suspect that Tariq and his Mgmnt has been ripping us apart, but who is up to pay a lot more money every year so Tariq and Adnan can go to court and settle their disputes at expense of our earned money?
I think league needs a new leader and i dont care who it is. As long as it's not Adnan, Tariq.
Poor Farhat cant even manage his pants, how will he manage to run the league? Somebody said that president has to be strong who can stand up and take ShXt from teams, well then may be you should look at Pak because the Mafia group certainly have no manners or magmnt skills, but for sure know how to make some body shut their ho** who speaks against them. But I dont think anybody would wana see this league run by Rashid...
I will stick with Jaggi/Tushar/Romeen/Vikram as potential candidates, unless somebody has other suggestions? May be Shiraz from Rogers?
I don't know why everyone keep getting it mixed up that it is Adnan vs Tariq. I guess no one read my comment where I stated that I will continue to run against this corrupt organization, until a new candidate emerges. Don't get it twisted folks and try to make this look like drama.
Note: People on this blog who are claiming to be buddy buddy with Jaggi, if he decides to run. A special message, you can't even post under your real identity, how can you stand next to him come election time? Don't be a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
i recieved this from managment today
"Dear MCC cricketers,
This may come as old news to many of you, but we would like to give you an update on the status of the lawsuit that was filed against MCC by Akbar Khan and Adnan Baig last year.
The lawsuit was thrown out last Fall -- "dismissed without prejudice" in legal parlance . This was the second -- and final -- dismissal of the lawsuit. You may recall that Messrs. Khan and Baig had earlier filed a motion to have the results of our 2006 elections overturned; in that case, too, the judge found the complaints without merit. Given the way the American judicial process works, the plaintiffs had the
right to appeal. We learned from our attorney a few weeks back that the appeal had not been filed. As a result, the lawsuit is finally over, with a resounding victory for MCC. We have had to make no compromises, whatsoever, to the plaintiffs in the process.
Despite how ridiculous the case was, it did cost MCC a lot of money. Our legal bills added up to almost $40,000, which as you know, is a huge portion of annual budget. In practical terms, this has denied our community a number of benefits, which include delaying (or even altogether cancelling) ground renovations and the inability to have 2 neutral umpires in games.
There is a lesson in this for all of us: We are a community of cricketers who simply want to play and enjoy the game. Such petty infighting and recriminations will only serve to hurt all of us. In the end, the only people to benefit from this whole affair were the attorneys.
We would like to thank to all of those who stood with us and on the side of common sense during this. We hope we can now all get back to the business of cricket.
-Management
can u beleive that $40000 down the drain imagine what change that could have brought to our cricket.
Screw present mngmt for not giving adnan what he wanted to see.....and screw adnan for wanting what he wanted.
Adnan im sure u spent a lot money on this too....if you could have just used that same money to get 21votes instead of 10...common what is MCC coming down tooo...
at the end of all of this cricket and us players that love this game dearly are getting the worst of it...
Few idea for new incoming management, they should ratify the constitution such that no one candidate can hold office for more that 2 or 3 consecutive years for president post that way we always have inflow of fresh blood and new ideas It also gives ample time for the new elected management to implement the ideas page. we spent so much time and effort on that it just bugs me that nothin has been done its time for change and over haul
Jaggi/Tushar/Romeen/Vikram suggested by bloggers are very good choices these guys are well respected not only for their playing abilities for their respective teams but for their impeccable personalities They are cool as it can get these guys are relentness in their pursuit of perfection and if they can infuse that into their MCC management only then this league will move forward it sometimes feel we are just stagnated and it just started to stink a litle bit..we pay about 2300 dollars (Wow! that lot of money) I hope every team and who is reading this blog communicate this info to their respective teams and other teams that don't know about what's going on and garner the support for next elections and bring about that change which is long due Change is always beautiful thing forget the past what could be done and what cannot be important issue is what can be done from now...moving on forward...
40K DAMN...so hold on...i still have some problem doing math...
total fees 2300x50 teams = 115,000
law suite cost = 40k
new pitches = 10k (say)
new additional cost in 2006 = 50k
additional money 2006-2005 = 15k
due to increase in fees.
no banquet+trophies = $10k (say)
(i can't imagine it being more then that)
i don't remember anything we did not do last year that we did every previous year. So what is this management talking about. What did we do with those additional 35k every year?
Adnan said
"A special message, you can't even post under your real identity, how can you stand next to him come election time? Don't be a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
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Thats your problem right there...
You can't win an election by instilling fear...you need to gain respect.
You definitely lost the last bit I had...thanks.
I like a lot of your ideas, I definitely like the way you are standing up, getting your team ,giving other people chances. Those are all good, but you need to be a leader, not a dictator, got to earn the respect.
I dont wanto get into a mudslinging affair with you...
peace out..
I guess they spend close to $8000-$10,000 on the LA Open.
Plus, umpiring fees.
But yes, a detailed expense report will help.
time_pass,
excellent comment!
they did that every year since last 3 yrs. Also, where is that 2007 "audited" finance report
i thought it was going to be posted in 2 weeks after AGM.
Anhoest query, excellent job in probing. This is what we need not those who can't answer a simple question and take conversations to different paths.
Stick to reality timepass and tango.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
I am so glad that people here agree that Tariq Vs Adnan for next elections is not the best choice. Both dictators. You do it their way or your out the door. My question to Adnan is that he cost the league 40K (WHICH teams HAD TO PAY) and what did come out of suit??
Since you seem to have a lot of money (taking your team to LA, and you must have paid equivalent money 40k or so to your lawyer) and you have the PAIN in your heart for us/cricket, do you feel ashamed that you caused us to pay this extra money??? Are you going to make a donation to the league for 40k so it can be returned to the teams since YOU caused it due to your STUPID battle between Tariq? Why didnt you appeal and keep fighting for our "rights" and cost another 40k to midwest league?
That's all i got to say. I really wish we have sensible people up for elections next year, people we know and people we respect. Not these two freaking dictators.
Adnan,
You are trying to prove to us that the current management is bad. We already know that. So stop wasting your time.
Do you even take others opinions (that contradict your opinions) into consideration?
Or is it more like, "Thats the bottom line, because Adnan says so"?
Again get it through your head timepass that I am not looking to compete if there is another candidate emerges. Therefore your comment that I need to earn respect and should not be a dictator, is crap. Let me shed some light on my one legged... comment, what we have seen through out is a lot of talk. Believe me, during 2006 I touched a lot of different people in this league, but their answer to me was the same. All of them told me that they don't want to be exposed before the elections, but they will come forward as soon as I win the election. That's not the way it is suppose to work and unless we change that, this administration will continue to leverage fear and the league would continue its path towards disaster. Stand up, identify yourself. Let everyone know that you are real and not affraid.
The day you get rid of this fear of being identified, that will be the day the tide would turn.
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Adnan,
You are trying to prove to us that the current management is bad. We already know that. So stop wasting your time.
Do you even take others opinions (that contradict your opinions) into consideration?
Or is it more like, "Thats the bottom line, because Adnan says so"?
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Tango, I only talk to real people.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
I am not sure how can you guys question Adnan's character when you don't even know him. I have known him for last 6 yrs and have tremendous respect for his straight forwardness and honesty. He is not into playing games or twisting stories, thats why maybe he is not a good candidate for President.
The whole lawsuit thing was very unfortunate and definitely not required. Also, it was not only Adnan who was responsible for the lawsuit but the whole UCC was responsible. Having said that it was MCC that instigated the lawsuit not UCC. I don't want to repeat what has been said so many times and I did mention about it during the first AGM. We terminated the lawsuit because nothing positive was coming out of it. None of the other members cared about what is being done with funds or representation of MCC talent at regional or national levels. We took in our own hands of giving ourselves and some of the MCC talent chance of playing in these tournaments, rather then wasting our time and money in lawsuits.
Yeh the campain has begun!!!.
If we get new management how many of the support staff will stick around with the new guys.
for everyone who want to run for president put up your "If I were president". lets see what we can expect so we can start lobbying for you??
Are the voting done anonymously?
I bet there would be lot of candidates if the President position were to be virtual.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Hi,
Last year, I umpired few of the games and during the final settlement, I was told that I will be getting a certain amount. This was less as per my calculation. I told this to Sohail Alvi and he told that they had reduced the Umpiring fee per game to accomodate the lawsuit charges. I told this to my captain and he raised this issue before Tariq. And Tariq told that they had not reduced the umpiring fee coz of lawsuit, but it was because of other infrastructure costs that came up last year ...
As per this, it seems like Tariq did not plan to use the MCC money for the lawsuit ...
MCC Members,
Some great feedback and sharing of ideas. While we get everybody's input on making the league better by perhaps changing the management. It's my understanding that this current management has been in place for many many years ... this is not a good sign for any organization because with time ideas get stagnant, also with time comes Dictatorship mentality which basically originates from the fact that they end up thinking that We have done so much for this league so we own it.
I agree that Tariq has done wonderful things over the years but now I think his vision of developing this league and taking it from Good To Great has taken a backseat.
Among many things I see a need for imporovement in the following arena:
1. I no longer see a commitment to improve things and Cricket. Perfect example is how players get selected for tournaments. This leagues just does not give a proper chance for people to compete for a spot.
2. This league is very reactive than being proactive. In order to be proactive you have to have a vision and a well thought strategy. Thinking and making decision on the fly gets old after few years. Take for example the start of this seasion, this management procastinates till the end. We should have the schedule and shit done by early Feb and not May.
3. Creative ideas never get nurtured or launched. Nor people outside of koolaid drinking management are given a chance to make a difference or provide feedback.
4. There is no formal / civil way for members to provide feedback to management to improve upon.
5. This league is doing a horrible job levraging the bright people that it has as members.
6. This is the worst fact of all. This league has a attitude and mentatlity that if Tariq does step down this MCC will fall apart. I say this as hogwash as everyone is dispensible. There are many smart leaders that will step up once there is regime change.
7. Management style is very hostile towards people that do not think like them.
Next time I will share some thoughts on what we may look for in a good President'e
Adnan,
I hold no personal grudge against you or anyone and I'm not hiding behind a nick name. I use the blog to have a good day's fun, nothing more or less.
I didnt even say anything against you until you brought up the point of one legged ass kicking (would be pretty interesting).
I thought you came out a bit rude and thats all I pointed out.
I did get the point of you not contesting in case of a valid candidate and I respect that thought.
I can talk crap about you or anybody in here behind this nick, but I personally dislike that. I have never done that and will never try that either.
About the elections next year, yes, I'm definitely interested in supporting a good candidate and I'll come forth for the same when time comes, have no qualms about it.
Meanwhile, I'm gonna stick with my nick and have some fun in here.
wow.......the blog is heating up. Guys i know a guy who said that if he become a president he don't want any money from the league for adminstration cost but he give a donation of $10k or may be more for the improvement of cricket.His name is chitranjan reddy from peoria.
Asmar i don't wanna offend u or anything but u r the only player who got selected in that trail and there are some player who perform better then u in the trail do not get selected. About 90% of the team went to L.A. Open didn't even bother to show-up so i don't know why the league waste so much time taking the trails they can just give u a call and pick u why calling all those other players and waste their important time if they wanna pick only 1 person from the trail.
Abhi..are you from Peoria?
People in this league will always say Adnan is not a good person to run this league my comments to that is atleast he got balls. You guys were asking jaggi to stand in the next election, my Question to jaggi is he was the part of the adminstration so what r the reason to quit, did u resign because u don't like the way the adminstration running the league or some personel reason or too much burden on u because the persident & vice-persident r both out of towners & r u still the part of adminstration or not plz clarify.
No i am not from peoria.
Abhi,
I'm quoting Jaggi's comment from another thread.
"A few of you knew this earlier.. I officially stepped down as the General Secretary of our league at the second AGM. I have a lot of personal commitments for this year and didnt want to take up the role knowing that I couldnt do justice to it. I will be transitioning all my responsibilities to my replacement."
So, Alpesh,
Who do you think is right about the reason for reduction of umpire fees?? Tariq or Sohail. Or, did your captain just blow some hot air to you?
This is the kinda crap that gets the blood boiln?.
How much do we pay for night umpiring
Mehul, I agree with you. Adnan is a good cricketer and I am sure he is very nice to you for all these years since your his team member and close friend, I heard SaddamH was really loving to his family and friends as well? It's different when I have to imagine him running the league..(a very scary thought)
Adnan is always asking people to show their identity, sounding more like "if i only knew who you were....". In the end he looks even more stupid because is there anybody who will show their identity just because "adnan" asked to do so? Might work that way in United but wont work anywhere else! Just have some fun and chill out
The league states it spent 40K for the lawsuit, but as i understand there were only 2 or may be 3 court dates?? What kind of Lawyer did the league hire who demanded that much money for 2-3 dates? Or was there SO MUCH work lawyers had to do for judge to decide there is nothing in the case? Did it really cost 40K or is the league just making it all up so Tariq can pay for his flights to Chicago?
I wonder how much United had to pay for their suit to see how much league might have had to spend to defend?
It doesnt matter if it was Khan, Adnan or whole UCC who started the lawsuit, bottom line is that we players had to pay from our pockets for YOUR issues with Tariq. We all know the history there... That reflects bad on "United Group" that you started a fight spent tons of Money of yours and the league, and then left the battle...If you beleive in yourselves and were so desparate to make a change, should have continued your appeals and fight.
If United Group doesnt hesitate to spend thousands of your own earned money, WASTE IT and then forget about it. I wonder WHAT WOULD happen if you were running he league and you have all this league money which is there to spend??
More ego fights and more law suits???
To sum up, I really wish we see some new faces in Management who are qualified to do so. Not our good old dictators and looters.
Any about LA open, the only players who goo to LA are people (not even players) who are liked by Tariq. I feel your pain Abhi, this will most likely change when we have "people's managment" and not dictatorship running the league.
Any by the way, before i am asked to reveal my identity, sorry wont be doing so. Hence dont waste a posting.
Nice going ice-cold i like it...
I am trying to figure out why we have to pay 2300.00 membership
Here is what i can account for per team
Umpires $500.00
Grounds $500.00
Ball $150.00
Banquet $150.00
Misc $200.00
Total $1500.00
Who want to help me account for the $900.00.. for teams who pay $2400.00 membership.
Management can we have the Detail financial statements published on this page as was promised a month ago. This will ease a lot of frustration for all who think their monies are being mispent.
heres the breakdown for the other $900
tariqs tickets $300
Sohails tickets $300
marghoob's beer $300
Do anyone know that Tariq & his buddies do a lawsuit against USACA i wanna know if our managment is not spending our hard earned money in that lawsuit & if they r they should atleast ask the teams .......any info about that.
Anonymous....it sound like master-card commercial
tariq ticket $300
sohail ticket $300
marghoob beer $300
Players cursing themselve
Priceless.
FunnyYYYYY!!1 anon.
Abhi, Once we get the financials with detail balance sheet, only then we can tell how our monies are being spent.
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Adnan,
I hold no personal grudge against you or anyone and I'm not hiding behind a nick name. I use the blog to have a good day's fun, nothing more or less.
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Might work that way in United but wont work anywhere else! Just have some fun and chill out
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Good to know that Timepass and icecold are just here for fun, therefore their blogging should not be taken seriously.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
So who all are on the board this year?
The website only shows the names of the 2003 board.
Can someone please let me know?
As time pass said "
I’ll get straight to the point, we want a guy who can handle the teams that have Indian, Pakistani and West Indian folks. "
President has to be able to deal with multiculture... If he cant then he has already failed.
I would think that most of us are here to have fun.
heres the breakdown for the other $900
tariqs tickets $300
Sohails tickets $300
marghoob's beer $300
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Well Said
"President has to be able to deal with multiculture... If he cant then he has already failed."
'multicultural'?
Are you saying that all Indians, Pakistani's and West Indians act in one particular way? Because thats pretty idiotic.
It all depends from person to person. So this multi-cultural thing is all crap. Lets put it this way; the President should be able to handle all the 'uncivilized goons'.
ps. That doesn't mean we elect an 'uncivilized goon'
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Do anyone know that Tariq & his buddies do a lawsuit against USACA
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Yes Sir, MWCC was part of Council of League Presidents (CLP) which brought a lawsuit against USACA.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Tango said "So who all are on the board this year?"
As of last year, we had Tariq(ofcourse), Sohail, Humayun, Jaggi, Athreya, Shashi, Kiran, Shiraz , Magnus and that guy from Hammond(his cell phone would always go on during thhe AGM which was irritating).
Out of this Jaggi quit, Athreya quit , Shashi quit, Kiran was never there, Shiraz was night tournament only, Magnus did a little with WP ground and the Hammond guy did nothing.
All we have left is the trio of Tariq, Sohail and Humayun.. 2 of them are not in Chicagoland.. one of them is not even in the midwest.
Adnan, how much did you, akbar and ucc spend on the lawsuit against MCC?
A lot:)
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
Adnan...
Well you can tell us how much you paid .. If management said they paid 40K and you are trying to show you are better than management you should be more open dont you think?
Seems like if you were management we will be saying this line..
"the more things change the more they remain the same"
"If I were your president"
Here is what you will see.
a)Banquet will be held no later than 2nd week of November.
1)First AGM in Jan of the year.
2)2nd AGM by mid March.
3)Pre season scheduled games for all teams who wants to participate in pre-season. First two weeks of April. (this will be of no cost as you will umpire these game yourselves)
4)League officially starts 3rd weekend in April.
5)All teams will be playing in colored outfits.
6)White balls of high quality will be used even if it cost $10.00 more than what we use today.
7)Power plays as we see in modern day ODI's.
7) umpiring Fees will 75.00 Div1, $70 Div2. $60.00 30/30. $50.00 night.
8)There will be 3 Divisions. Div 1&2 14 teams each. All others Div 3.
To go with this we will still have 30/30 and night tourney.
8)There will be two tournaments a year for Div 1,2,3 & 30/30.
a)Regular season 10 games With play offs will finish around 2nd week of August.
b)A world cup format of 8 groups of 4 teams each. Top 12 teams from 1 & 2, top 6 from 3 and 2 from 30/30 auto qualifys. If a team don't want to play more then we replace by next available by position starting with Div 1.
b1)for team that do not qualify it's payers can play for any team that has quealified.
b2)this will be 3 regular games. 8 group winners and 4 wild cards (NRR) to play offs. this will last 6 weeks. end of September season over!!!.
c1) I feel this format will give teams an incentive to finish good if the want to make it to the second tour,
10)there will be a players association. Panel of 5 selected by the players. No executive can be on this panel.
a)This panel will be your union and all players issues will be addressed by them to management.
b)This panel will be re-elected every year VS management will be 2 years.
c) Move for constitution to make sure only the players association can sue MWCC. (I will work with this elected panel to make sure we never ever end up in court).
11)You will have a full finacial statement by June 1st of the year. Final detail statement will be given out at the banquet so that teams can be prepared for first AGM.
12)Fees will be based upon toureys entered & overhead cost to run the league.
13)Exclusive rule will still be there but for Every Event whether it be charity, Usaca, MWCC or space aliens and MWCC is invited I will make sure we send a team. Maybe 2 if allowed.
14)There will be some kind of all star event to show case out talent and select a core team to Represent MWCC.
15)work with everyone towards the development of cricket in the midwest Zone so we can all enjoy this game to it's fullest.
16)My executive body will be of individuals with the ability to fill their position to it's fullest with your help.
17)Spend our monies wisely for the benifit of Cricket.
I promise you i will do all of this and more as see fit!. will you vote for me? and who will like to be join my Executive body or special events commettee?.
Most of you have my personal info so we can keep this off the records if you want?.
Fast_n_furious
I agree with you......
Rup,
I like what you have there. Just be careful when you pick up your colleagues...
We need people like you, jaggi etc who are in cricket for the cricket not for the MONEY or power.
I will vote for you rup.. But this has to go.. "b1)for team that do not qualify it's payers can play for any team that has quealified."
What we doing here is rewarding failed teams
"A world cup format of 8 groups of 4 teams each. Top 12 teams from 1 & 2, top 6 from 3 and 2 from 30/30 auto qualifys. If a team don't want to play more then we replace by next available by position starting with Div 1."
Unnecessary!
I like all the other ideas though.
So RUP is running for president this time....who else is coming forward? Except adnan?
Adnan sounds more like a elementary school principal.
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P.S. couldn’t help noticing that, PART B in RUPs promises. It look like after trying getting into Div I for countless years, he is trying to find a backdoor.
Tango,
dude, you and me same page on lot of issues. we should think about swindlig leagues money for next two years
Adnan's earlier comment: "Again get it through your head timepass that I am not looking to compete if there is another candidate emerges. "
Looks as though Adnan won't even compete if someone else decides to compete.
neanderthal_walking,
Sure man. I hate my job anyways :)
b1)for team that do not qualify it's payers can play for any team that has quealified."
What we doing here is rewarding failed teams
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If your team don't qualify do you think you will find a place on the team that qualified?. Then again it will be up to the teams how this plays out?.
Tango..said
"A world cup format of 8 groups of 4 teams each. Top 12 teams from 1 & 2, top 6 from 3 and 2 from 30/30 auto qualifys. If a team don't want to play more then we replace by next available by position starting with Div 1."
Unnecessary!
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Why..we need 32 teams.
so RUP in ADNAN out?
i dont know man, RUP ia acting like "I know everything" lately.
Neanderthal said..
P.S. couldn’t help noticing that, PART B in RUPs promises. It look like after trying getting into Div I for countless years, he is trying to find a backdoor.
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I don't know which one of the B's but ICC ultimate objective is to have fun ad at the same time win. If we make it to 1 or three it will not change the way we see or play the game.
now lets take race into the equations.. Tell the truth. HOW MANY OF PAK, Ind players will vote for a West Indian RUP?
Since no one knows who you are you can tell the truth..
I will vote for him...
fast_n_furious,
Makes no difference to me if Rup is West Indian, Indian or Pakistani.
Rup said: "Why..we need 32 teams."
I just feel that there won't be enough motivation for teams to play another tournament.
So we are unnecessarily reducing the length of the season.
Tango the way i see it is there are teams who don't want to play the 14 games so these teams will fall out after the first event.
So we have a second quick tour for the guys who want to grind it out longer. Also seeing the second event is so short it anyone's trophy.
Fast_N_Furious said...
now lets take race into the equations.. Tell the truth. HOW MANY OF PAK, Ind players will vote for a West Indian RUP?
Since no one knows who you are you can tell the truth..
I will vote for him...
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thats BS. we all know RUP well enough. i bet as much as you knew about tariq and jaggi or may be even more because he has made a name for himself in midwest.
fast N furious...i think this is not about NOT knowing him, it is more about NOT BEING ONE OF US.
Rup,
MWCC is one of the largest (if the the largest) cricket league in the United States.
All other major leagues play at least 13 games. Southern California league plays 16, New Jersey Cricket league plays 16 etc.
The other smaller leagues aka. Ohio, Minnesota, UCC, Michigan play fewer games, but all these leagues are much smaller and far less competitive than ours.
That is why I feel that if we want to be known as one of the big-boys, then we can't reduce the number of games in our season.
Unless afcorse, majority of the teams want a reduced schedule.
I don't know if I'd want to pay $2400 to play 8-10 games in a season.
Rup,
I feel that the umpiring fees were reduced to accomodate some of the law-suit expenses.
Nice agenda Rup ... Yeah, even I feel there should be limit on number of teams in Div 1 n Div 2. Also the scheduling part has to be very transparent. It there are only 14 teams, then they can play a round robin format.
Even in Div 2, this year there are 26 teams. They could had divided the 8 aways teams into 2 groups. And then formed 2 groups of 13 each .. based on last year rankings ...
Carry on ... nice ideas ...
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Adnan.. what happens to your LA bound team if Tariq picks you, Mehul and Faisal for LA Open.
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now that is a knock out. lets see what adnan got to say
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We have notified the mgmt that we are not available for 2007 L.A. Open Tournament.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
Tango,
Those are things i will like to see done. I also stated will work with all to make sure what we do is what's the players want done.
Of course you can't always make all happy but we can compromise?
"12)Fees will be based upon toureys entered & overhead cost to run the league." This is what I said about fees.
Rup,
in case you do become President. Don't change the division format over night. Inform teams in the beginning of the season that, 'next season' we will be having the three division format.
Wait for a year and let teams fight it out before you relegate anyone.
Tango, Good point
If so happens that i become predident it will be impossible to to implement all the ideas I mentioned.
The ones that are the easiest to implement will the first off and i see relegation to accomodate the 3 div the last thing so it will be till 2008 where the full effect takes place.
what I see in 2008 is 3 teams relegated. Once Div 2 and 3 are formed then in 2009 we have 4 relegated for 1, 2 up from 2 and 2 down to 3. This will give us 14 teams in 1, 14 in 2 and the rest in 3. Then in 2010 we are back to 2 relegated all over.
here is how it will look
2008
Div 1.. 17+2-3=16
Div 2.. 2+Top 12=14
Div 3.. Everyone else + new teams
2009
Div 1..16+2-4=14
Div 2..14+2-2+14
Div 3..+ & - 2 + all new teams
RUp what about accounting? I understand you are accountant by profession how about this idea..
We need to have it as transperant as possible to all memebers. To achieve this, we need have a non-profit account in some bank for MCC, through a independent account firm, with no one person having direct access to it. Everything that is take out of this account, should at least three executive memebers signing off and they should provide proper receipts to the independent accounting firm, for tally. That way we can have every penny accounted for and make it easy on every one. Almost a 100,000 buget is quite a lot of money, for any one not to get greedy...
Cricket,
I feel the treasure od this league must have a thorough knowledge of the principles of accounting thus proper doccumentation and reporting will be done.
I do not think there is need for three signatures once there is sufficient doc to show the monies were spent for MWCC reasons.
There will be two reports for the players to look at. Semi and anual.
If they have any q's the can address it with the players association.
Rup did I not here you already have this in place for ICC team?
Where you give your players a balance sheet yearly?
If so great job
some ppl say the lawsuit is personal feud between adnan vs. tariq. if so then why did tariq use league money to fight personal battle? also if tariq used league money to fight personal battle, why adnan is blamed?
adnan, did you or akbar use others money? i am asking because mehul mention that all of united cc is fighting this lawsuit. did others in united cc contribute their money to your personal lawsuit? can someone from united reply? i assume all members of united cc have full balance-sheet with them, since they are asking the same of mcc .......................
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Screw present mngmt for not giving adnan what he wanted to see.....and screw adnan for wanting what he wanted.
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so in your eyes, asking tough questions and avoiding touch questions are equal crimes? nice logic................
Fast n'
That will be correct. ICC gives out a financial statement to all of it members before our AGM starts.
This statement is a complete reflection of our finances from the Last AGM to current.
No money from UCC funds were dispersed towards the lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of United Cricket Club which was approved by the members of UCC to obtain MWCCC financial records.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
Does any one know if we re-gained our Not for Profit organization licence back this year
We had lost it the year before??.
We lost it again this year. It expired. Check Secretary of State, IL web site for update.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
so lawsuit was filed on behalf of united but not used ucc club funds. but even though lawsuit was filed against mcc management only, but they used mcc league funds ???
www.unitedcricket.org is now updated with Central East Regional Tournament information. Please visit the site for all the details.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
So MWCC doe not realy exist. just the name.
you see, a non profit org cannot exceed xx amount of $$ of profit at the end of the year or you have to file with the FEDS. i hope this was not the reason for non Renewal.
Or did we open a new corp and have this running as a private corporation.
Wonder why management did not share this info with us??.
The more you dig into what's happening right to more S*** keeps coming up.
TIME......u make no sense. lawsuit was againts MCC mgmt. it is not againts tariq or others for something they did personally. so i think they were right o use MWCC money. dont know about 40 K though. to be honest i dont know much about behind the scene stuff about the lawsuit. but they are allowed to use MWCC money.
maybe we should ask Adnan for 40K.
RUP....you have started sounding like adnan more and more. cursing and degrading of current mgmt is not the only way to win. put your ideas forward and let people weigh them.
"RUP....you have started sounding like adnan more and more. cursing and degrading of current mgmt is not the only way to win. put your ideas forward and let people weigh them."
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Neanderthal,
How did you arrive at the above conclusion or you always judge people this way
My objective is to get the facts out. Cursing Mangement..no. and will not.
Remember Enron.. no one had the guts to blow the whistle so Thousands of people lost?.
In our case hundreds of cricketers will loose if we don't let management elected, that we are expecting X, Y, & Z from them. If they can't deliver then we need them out.
By the way remember I said earlier, this is a campaign to be elected. Are you expecting me to give out candies???.
Rup,
any previous leadership experience? or just 'head of the family' thing like me (actually like my wife)?
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RUP....you have started sounding like adnan more and more. cursing and degrading of current mgmt is not the only way to win. put your ideas forward and let people weigh them.
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Dude majority will sound like that come '08.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Tango,
Because of cricket a lot of us probalby has the wife as head..we just fill in once in a while if cricket allows??.
Co Founder of ICC and current Captain. 15yr..14yrs captain
Special event cordinator for IGCO. An orginazation that we have that helps keep our familes and friends together.
9 of my 17 years working in the US for two large corp, I have been in managemnt. I am currently a manger overseeing a Dept.
Above all, it my love for cricket that has kep me going in the cricket world.
Happy holiday to all out there especially my blogging buddies.
I am going to party for the next couple day, hope ya al do too.
See ya and be safe.
Rup
neaderthal, adnan used his own money for whatever the hell came in his mind. since he didn't use any of my money, who am i to say waht he does w/ his dough and his time?
mgmt used your and my money for the lawsuit. i gave it to mcc to play cricket, not for anyone's lawsuit. certainly fighting lawsuit is not essential to organizing cricket. it is only essential for clearing mgmt's name, which i don't care abt. as i said, i only care abt cricket. so why is my money being used for something i don't care abt ???
one final q to bloggers: do u think membership will decrease next year, since lawsuit expense it over?
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it is not againts tariq or others for something they did personally.
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of course it is. if it was tariq's decision to not disclose balance-sheet to member clubs, then it is something he did personally....... should his own decisions not to be held against him personally ???? what logic is this?
There has been some talk here regarding Farhat taking charge of the league. Let me set this straight for you, Farhat sheikh is by far the worst captain in our league. He is reactive rather than proactive and constantly gets into it with the opposition and the umpire. Last year, in a crucial match, instead of leading from the front, he batted all the way down #11 because he was afraid of certain pace bowlers. He never takes responsibilities for his actions and constantly blames others for them. The absolute worst! He has a shady character and had problems keeping his pants on during a confrontation with Joe Green last year. Poor guy can't even keep his emotions in check and some of you expect him to run the league. That's just being too optimistic.
Pukka punjabi....
your statement about farhat sheikh is look like a personnel grudge towars him the stats of Muslim gym totally oppose your statement he actually make Muslim gym a playoff team with the same bunch of guys a year before that as we all know muslim was fighting for a spot in Div 1.
Midwest Alliance beat CER champions Minnesota Cricket Association in first round match.
Midwest Alliance 156 all out in 30 overs. MCA 108 all out in 25 overs.
Next game Sunday 05.26.07 1:00 p.m CST against United Cricket Conference. GO Midwest!
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Any stand out performances? Or your going to keep that a secret?
Either way, well done and all the best in the next game.
Midwest Alliance lost its Semi Final match to United Cricket Conference.
Midwest Alliance batted first and scored 157 runs in 30 overs.
United Cricket Conference chased the total in 28.2 overs at a loss of 8 wickets.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket LCub
thought so when there was no update. anyway look like a close game. are you going to put scorecard online?
Any score card updates from this weekend games
If ppl are done bashing management etc lets discuss the fixtures for next weekend. Is it a mistake in the schedule or are S Louis playing Wildacts on sat and then traveling to Hanover Park to play Milwaukee on sun?
Some really good div 1 matches coming up. Flames v Pak, Purdue v Challangers, Capitol v United, MUCC v Bears, Wildcats v StL
St Louis is coming down to Chicago and playing Wildcats on Sat and Milwaukee on Sun. Both games are at Hanover Park.
Any guesses for the MVP of the month?
Jaggi,
Division I: Sohail Alvi
Division II: Suresh Paul
Tango.. you are on the money with both guesses. I will do a quick write up(hopefully before end of day).
Any guesses for div-30/30?
Abhi, there's in no personal grudge on my part. I am merely stating facts. Farhat is a low class loser, and to even contemplate with the idea of him running the league is absurd. As I said, he's having troubles with his pants, how's he going to manage the league. The league needs leadership, not someone who can't even man up to a certain pace attack, thus batting at #11.
Thanks Jaggi my bad! Didn't see both the venues! Mouthwatering weekend though!
Farhat was "sick" that day as he has told everyone thats why he came at #11.
during their qtr fina with Pak, he did come in middle order and scored a fifty (surviving a beamer which hit him on his chest followed by cple of bouncers). After that over, i beleive Shahid shouldnt have allowed to bowl...
But as far as running the league, i agree that Farhat is nowhere capable of being a president.
I will still stick with my initial picks of Jaggi/romeen/tushar and any body similar.
Also, if Raheel is out there he can shed some light how that accident happened that the moment Farhat came to crease, Shahid couldnt grip the ball??
It was a cloudy, rainy day as you'd remember if you were there. Ball can slip at any time .. Brett Lee bowls a beamer every 3-4 matches, it happens. Why don't you ask Shahid the next time you see him?
Jaggi,
30-30 MVP. Shahzad Rashid
Again... good guess Tango. Yeah it is Shahzad Rashid and Nirav Patel.
test
Guys, we have an upcoming game with Chicago Giants. We are new comers in MCC. Could anybody give us scouting report on the Giants? May be rup or any team who has played them recently could give us lowdown on the Giants.
Hey Jaggi. If St. Louis is going to be playing at Hanover park on Sunday then that means that scheduling committee has made a mistake in our schedule as Chicago Acers vs Jaguars is also scheduled to be played at Hanover Park on Sunday. Could someone let me know on how to fix this problem??
Masta,
Send an e-mail to the scheduling commettee.
Cric-lover,
Giants is one of those teams where you realy can't tell. there are what we call a fighting bunch. they play hard no matter what the situation is.
We only scored 76 and except for opener Yaseen everyone else look ordinary. Could be the kept their better batsman for last.
Yaseen looks like an agressive bat so you must bowl length and line??.
their bowling is nothing to fear but they are consistant so patience will be the advise.
Hope this helps and good luck.
Can any one tell me what section of the rules or constitution says you can only request info or sue as a Team and not as an individual of MCC.
I went through all of it and can't locate..then again I am not too smart.
Help...Rup
Rup,
Check out Article 8, Section 4 on http://www.midwestcricket.org/go/aboutUs/constitution.htm. This section about the Treasurer mentions "Shall provide a formal information to any member per request for inspection, books of accounts at all reasonable times.".....I think "member" means a Team club as an entity.
I don't think there is any such think as "suing as a team" :)....If you got the money and the extra time to deal with all that BS, I guess that is all you would need.
From what I understand, Akber started the initial law suit asking for a Financial report, among other things. MCC countered by saying he was not part of any team. United joined that suit so they could then jointly ask for the financial statements.
Rest of you, if I mis-stated anything above, please correct me.
Thanks Swetal,
Me suing MCC..will never happen.
I am just doing some research for my personal and ICC use. don't need to waste any of my hard earned $$ on MCC.
Just curious as to why we still have not gotten a financial report for 2006 and we are coming up on dedline for 2007 dues???.
We got sued over this crap once, spent over 40K to get out if it and looks like we are setting ourselves for another one..
See the budgeted 20k for legal fees 2007..like to know why.
Rup,
When I said "If you got the money and the extra time to deal with all that BS, I guess that is all you would need." ......that "you" should have read "any of us as individuals".
I am with you on the suing part. For sure, da wife would sue my ass first! Luv this game and luv playing in the MCC but not at the expense of lawsuits.
We asked Adnan to tell us how much it cost him but he never responded. May be he can give his idea whether it sounds reasonable that league is telling is the cost to defend lawsuit was 40k?
I dont know if any bloggers out there related to legal field wana comment...
Seeing is believing folks. If MWCC can show you a cancelled check for 40k to the lawyers then that is what they paid. Why is everyone on this blog asking everyone but management on how much was spent? And if you have asked the management, but did not get an answer or a proof then you know there is something fishy. Let's just leave it at that. We have adopted a passive stance on the accountability, why stop now?
One more thing I want to add. Why all of a sudden there is a issue that mgmt spent 40k on this lawsuit? What about the times when there was no lawsuit and still money matters looked suspicious? How come no one stood up in the AGM and requested to look into it?
As I have been saying, it is easy to hide behind a computer and use an alias to post concerns and act like you care. It is a different story when you stand up in front of a crowd and demand explanation. This is what spearates boys from men.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Adnan... I am not with you on this. There are no doubts about how much the mgmt spent.. it is 40 freakin K$. What we need is how much you spent.. is it that complicated to answer it?
Separating boys from men.. I wouldnt go that far man. I would take a non-confrontational approach. You seem like you get pissed off everytime someone asks you a simple question. I can tell you this, making the league(all of us) pay $40freakingK is not about being a "man". Get that point about people hiding behind aliases out of the way, its old stuff.
so rup and swetal, the only reason you guys would not sue is because u can't spare the money....... not because you believe the mgmt is honest.......
and you guys are 2 of the most senior members of our league.......
Adnan,
Cricket for me is a past time. I play the game because I have a good time. Now if I am dissatisfied with management, or if I feel that management stealing my money, I'll either join a different league, I'll cultivate a different hobby, or I’ll vote for someone else in the next elections. I don’t plan to lead or even be part of the crusade, since I have other more important things to worry about. If you think I’m a ‘coward’ for doing that, then well….good for you. I think you’re a moron for spending $40,000 (assuming you spent as much as management) on a lawsuit. But who am I to care what you do with your money? Maybe you enjoyed seeing MWCC drain 40K on your personal battle with Tariq.
The elections last year were nothing more than a place where people with over-inflated egos turned to, and threw around their weight for no apparent reason. People didn’t vote for Tariq because they were scared to vote against him, they voted for him because his only opponent scared them even more. Instead of owing up to your stupidity in the last elections, you’re blaming everyone for not having ‘balls’. Well let me tell you something, God gave us ‘balls’ to have children; he gave us a brain to think. You might have been President had you known this before.
Tango,
I thought you were blogging only for fun, then why are you letting your emotions get the best of you? Who stepped on your tail?
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Ajit & Richards:
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Ajit: Maikal, Test Match mein kyaa ho raha hai ?
Maikal: Boss, Vivian Richards chhakke pe chhakke maar raha hai.
Ajit: Saaleh ko sabak sikhana padega. Lunch break mein usse phone milana.
Maikal: Yes Boss.
AJIT: (on phone, to Richards): Veeveeyun Reechards, tumhari Maa hamare kabze mein hai .......
Inzy's Interview
Actual conversation after 3rd ODI between India-Pak played in Lahore Paskistan on 13 Feb 2006
Rameez: So Inzy, disappointed with your performance today?
Inzy: Bismilla-e-rehman-e-rahim. Thank you allah.ya the indian batsman is play very good today.
we is try very hard but is not win the game.
Rameez: Any words for Dhoni?
Inzy: Ya dhoni is play very well. He is hit his shot very hard in our gaps. In start,
we is protect our gaps very well. the grass is also thick.. but dhoni is split our gaps with his bat.
Rameez: Another ordinary bowling performance?
Inzy: Ya our balls is loose. the bowler is went for many run. Asif is bowled well.
Also, after some shots the ball is out of shape. umpire is not give another ball..
it is tough to play with one ball.
Rameez: Dropped catches.. did that prove costly?
Inzy: ya the ball is not stick to our hands. we is practice a lot sticking our bat in our
hands.. but now we is more practice sticking balls in our hands.
Rameez: Any plans for the next match?
Inzy: ya India is on top but we is try to bounce on our back. Insha allah we is play better.
Rameez: All the best Inzy
Inzy: Thank is you
Anybody on how Capitol team is ? Any inputs will be highly appreciated....
"Who stepped on your tail?"
A short, fat man having a mid-life crisis :)
Tango...good one dude
i totally agree with you. A wise man once told me that tariq won not because he was good but his opponents were the worst. i wonder how adnan got even 10 votes. must be from the people who were really pissed off with tariq.
most of us here to play cricket on weekends and have some fun during the week on the blog and make smart ass comments once in a while.
about the mgmt,
i wish out mgmt were not corrupted. i wish we can find a mgmt who is not going to be corrupted.
but I do not wish to pay even a penny on stupid things like law suits.
had adnan paid a PR company 40 K instead wasting on a lawsuit, they would have boosted his image and given him couple of tips about leadership and who knows he would have been the president of MCC.
something to think about....
Lawsuit took away from a lot of good things Tariq could have done for this league but that is in the past. Can we change what has already happened? I am sure the answer is no. So can we just dump this conversaton of lawsuit and move on to bigger and better things.
ELECTION 2008 - RUP RUP RUP: I was reading your ideas on improving the league sounds interesting. I wish you best of luck and will fully support you provided you can enlist proven public servant and positive role models such as Jaggi, Shashi etc. If you can put together a team that believes in these 5 things then I think you have a very good chance.
People
Quality
Integrity
Teamwork
Performance
TIP: Key to success is for your team will be to demonstrate how you will make a difference. Because talk is cheap. People need to see your plan. Most plan fails because they are not actionable and measurable. Also because management ignores the need to continuosly solicit feedback from people they are elected to serve.
Being a President is not easy, it is a very thankless job. But if you have the will and you stand for improvement then nothing can stop you.
Good Luck Mate !!
Enough with the lawsuit ...can we talk something else ???
We aint getting that money back if we discuss that in here....lets take that as lesson learnt..
Adnan, you've pissed enough people in here that I really doubt if you will even get 10 votes next time.
Talk about being emotional...you're the one who jumps on every little thing and gets ansi about your own tail..oh wait a minute...you lost that in last elections...
And dont start the alias crap again, its getting really old and boring...you might need one soon!
summary of discusion:
a. everyone upset on lost money.
b. who took money? management
c. why mgmt took money? no idea, no balance-sheet.
mgmt admit $40k of the our money spend on their (nor our) lawsuit against short-fat-man in mid-life crisis.....
d. who everyone angry with? short-fat-man who used own money.......
if u too stupid or weak to identify real theif then u deserve money stolen..............
btw, i did not get ans to previous ques: do u expect membership fee to decrease next year? $40k divided by 2 year lawsuit = $20k per year. $20k divided by 50 team = $400 per team membership decrease ????
tango, carrying on about how you understand everything and insluting others, makes you fell like you are really funny ;) your lack of wit along with the lack of knowledge is leading you into a very scary place. you say you don't take this too seriously yet continue to drone on and on... calling people short and fat, and yet saying at the same time you cant respect him for insulting others, you oxymoron! or should i just say you moron!!! atleast he has the guts to stand up for something he belives in and is willing to take on idiots like you who don't even know their brains from their balls!
Ok guys stop this nonsense about bashing management and Adnan and lawsuit talk (what the F!). And for those people who want Rup to be president, do you really know him? Do you want a loud mouth to be president who shoots off first and thinks later? See all of his posts from last year making claims upon claims as to how ICC was best team in the league and they were going to take the trophy and then he wasn't even man enough to admit that the better team won in the SF! Anyways, thats what AGM's are for voting etc. Can we talk CRICKET here please now?!
Straigt drive I guess i will not be geting your vote If I run for president??.
you come on the blog talk crap and then hide behind "Can we talk CRICKET here please now?"!.
I was and is still proud of ICC and their accomplisments. so my Loud mouth was because we are a good team and was expecting to win the trophy.
Looks as though the United faithful have to once again jump-in to the defense of their loudmouth leader.
Ballsinbrain, why don't you sit down and slap some sense into Adnan?
He's the one who keeps calling everyone a 'coward' for not using their real name. Which by the way would mean that even you are a coward.
Take him aside and tell him, “Old man, don't start feeling like a rebel. Don't start thinking about everybody as a stereotype. Don't start feeling manipulated. In fact, you fall short to be worthy of anyone’s manipulation.
I know you care. But no one likes you. Don’t project yourself to be the leader of the anti-Tariq front. A leader has followers. A herdsman has a herd of cattle. You never had a herd, except for one cow which has its testicles stuck in the head (knock knock ballsinbrain!)”
Who knows, maybe he’ll listen to you.
i'm loving this. much better than reading blogs from self promoters.
anyway, judging by his behaviour, iassume that united players have to defend adnan to be in his good book.
Tango, it took you this long to come back with crap like that? You gotta do better than that. You are going on and on speaking in metaphors. You have nothing concrete to go on therefore you are trying to impress everyone with how eloquently you can dream up a story. You are somewhat of a Alice in Wonderland.
Come back to reality brother.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Adnan.. are you going to answer the question about how much you spent on the lawsuit?
Adnan,
"Tango, it took you this long to come back with crap like that? You gotta do better than that."
Sorry sir, I have something called a 'job'. Not everyone has 40K to waste on a lawsuit ;)
"You are somewhat of a Alice in Wonderland."
hmm, I prefer the 'Wizard of Oz'. I'll be 'Tinman', you can be the stern Miss. Gluch, and ballsinbrain can be Dorthy's dog 'Toto' :)
tango,
you continue to make no sense. but then i am being reduntant here. stop acting like you don't care and face the facts...you have no point. have not heard a logical argument from you yet. maybe you just go on and think with your balls and make babies with your brain. because from what i can tell is you haven't had any bush since bush had you!!! or perhaps you came out of the other oraphace and had plenty of that! you fudge packer, you...
briansfromball showing lot of hate.....that in not very nice
Time said
so rup and swetal, the only reason you guys would not sue is because u can't spare the money....... not because you believe the mgmt is honest.......
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The reaon I will not sue is my spare monies need to be spent on enjoyment for me and my family.
Second I believe there is always room for negotiations if the communication link is open ended.
Once I see the financials for 2006 then i will start judging the responsible parties.
aiite guys...lets cut it out now..
Thats enough mudslinging for the season!
Lets not worry about the past..
Lets talk about what can be done to make the league better..
Should we ask for quarterly statements, biannual ?
Maybe the management needs to send out a quaterly statement to all the teams.
How about grounds, like someone stated eralier, we definitely need grounds?
neanderthal_walking,
he's just insecure.
Anyways, I'm done with the Adnan bashing. Unless he decides to wake me up again.
Time,
We have asked for statement but we have'nt received one and it June. We can get an anual one imagine asking for more.
We need ground but where are we going to get the monies from to pay for more grounds?.
Management has budgeted 20k for legal fees and only 3k for grounds??. looks like we have a better chance of getting sued than getting grounds..unless you know someone who will get us free grounds??
Rup,
I was talking about what can be done to make the accounts more transparent.
I know that the current management is acting up on us and not taking the responsibility of showing us the money, but we can't just get wild and revolt can we?
We can definitely choose another contender next elections.
So, they are not even sending the annual balance sheet these days..
Jaggi, I know you are not part of the management anymore, but can you voice this across for us please?
About the grounds, I made some calls and mostly its the Park Distt that deals with the grounds.
Like Park Ridge Park Distt for instance.
If we can come up with a committee and try to approach different park distts, maybe we can get one or even two grounds.
We have not tried yet have we?
We dont have to pay the park distt all the time, sometimes they give it for recreational purposes.
what's the matter tango?
aww, did i hurt your feelings??
let's cut the crap and talk about cricket!
where the F are those financial?
What's up with the allstar game?
When is nite cricket starting?
...and what are our plans for sending players who did well during the CER tournament, to the USACA western region zone cmpetition, to be held in August in San Francisco??? Samarth Shah from United Cricket Club and Ruchir Saheba, Purdue Cricket Club have been named for Central East Zone XI. I want to know what is MWCC doing to expose our talent at a higher level?
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
samarth shah? there are million better spinners in the league.i guess if adnan wins its going to be a UNITED show.
Where were the other million spinners when Samarth was performing??.
there is my man again....i dont know which performance you are talking about...but for performance in MCC..checkout the last few year stats of people like asif
t_p, I will definitely pass on the message about the financial statements.
My 2 cents reg the grounds.. Park districts like to get specifics of the organization, the game, the ground, the pitch and most importantly referrals from other park districts.
A lot of park districts are not aware of cricket and the requirements. We need to make sure we are fully prepared before we approach park districts for grounds.
We first need to create a committee and equip them with all this information. Ehsan, who used to play for Suburban(he also was instrumental in getting the hanover park ground) said that you first need to build a relationship with the park district before you make them feel comfortable with the idea of pouring concrete in the middle of the ground.
It can take time and hence the need for a good strategy before we approach park districts.
Neande???
You need to re-charge frequently.
See, Samarth got selected because he was playing in the trials, the other 1 mil spinners were having tea and wathing us blog??.
Who cares how good you are if you are not there to showcase no one will ever know??
RUP RUP...i leave u alone man...you are not worth trashing...anyway why not asif was at trials?
u need ask asif, for that reason why was satha or shahid not at trials? because MWCC did not enter their official team...that is the bottom line.
adnan who is going to LA open in ur team?
but why couldn't adnan invite them? after all he is about giving a chance to who deserve it
and how do we know that they were not invited? also, did management announce that they will not ban the players who would participate in this tournament? by the way what is happening with MWCC's official LA team..the tournament is only month away...are there going to be trials?
and how do you know he did not ask them? could it be that they were afarid of repurcussions from current management? here we go again...
spouting off b4 you know anything?
isn't it so easy to take shots???
what would you propose as to putting the talent on display from mwcc, since you seem to know so much. and please name me another spinner besides asif, who is even close to samarth.
"i guess if adnan wins its going to be a UNITED show"
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so now you will tell us that mehul is not a good allrounder or adnan can't bat... and you have played so much cricket right? what have you done lately?
well i haven't been doing much of anything lately..:)). but for sure i know one thing i wouldnt do at all. i won't kiss my captains ass to be in the team.
well if you haven't done anything lately and are still playing this game, you must be doing something a lot more then kissing your cappy's ass. perhaps a reach around or a happy ending. how about a rust trambone...shall i go on? or you want to talk cricket? name me some spinners in the league better then samarth?
brainsfromball.....what you think "brain" might be cancer.....you are stupid and full of third class hatred. anyway UNITED got one good cricketer...mehul..thats all.... why dont you post scorecards for regionals so we can see who did well from UNITED
"what's the matter tango?
aww, did i hurt your feelings??"
You hurt my feelings? lol, don't flatter yourself.
i guess dictator has summoned whole UNITED to blogs.......keep on bloggin anyway its not like you are going to win MWCC
Congrats to Ruchir and Samarth. Who else played well in the tournament?
No point in keeping us all in suspense, we can already see the pictures of players participating.
good comeback, i am stupid...
what's the matter? can't take it. you wanna dish but can't take it?
name me some spinners in the league?
or do you want to continue talking out of your ass?
lot of hate brain.....you must have been neglected as a child. let the anger out of your system
when you continue to make asinine statemnets without thinking them through you appear just as dense as your blogging name. keep this converstaion on a higher level and we can discuss good cricket here.
... can you please name some good spinners in this league?
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i guess dictator has summoned whole UNITED to blogs.......keep on bloggin anyway its not like you are going to win MWCC
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Why are you under false assumption that anyone who brings up legitimate issues is from United? Would it be safe to assume you are a hater since you grab every opportunity to take cheap shots???
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
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samarth shah? there are million better spinners in the league.i guess if adnan wins its going to be a UNITED show.
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I'm honored by the high praise, but you are just flattering me. I have long known that there are not a million, but a Billion better spinners than me in our league. If you count the chuckers, you can make it a TRillion. :-))
As for the nomination, let me assure you it was pure luck. Many of the trillion better players than me were invited, but opted out. I just happened to be at the right place, at the right time, and I was just plain lucky, that's all.
As for Adnan being biased towards UCC, I think Adnan is actually biased *against* UCC. Let me give you an example. I *specifically* asked him to send me to open the batting in the CER tourney, since I have opened in the past for UCC and for Urbana. But he sent me #11 in both games, a position I am not accustomed to.
In fact, I plan to sue Adnan for destroying my confidence. I have heard you have generously donated to other lawsuits against Adnan, so can you send me also some cash? Thanks in advance.
-Samarth.
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