Predication of week #3 Div 1. 1.Purdue will win over Flames. 2.Capitol will upset St.Louis (Home court advantage). 3.Muslim and Chargers good one i pick Chargers to win. 4.Phoenix will pull out a huge upset against Pak gym. 5.Miwaukee cricket club will beat Challengers. 6.MUCC will win over Royals. 7.Rogers park will win a close one over Wildcats. 8.Bears and AAA a close one also with a AAA victory. Just the predication for fun don't wanna Offend anyone.
Due to the unfortunate demise of one of our team mates two days back, we do not think it would be appropriate for us to play this weekend. We plan to reschedule the game against Royals.
Our sincere condolences and support to his family in India.
Thanks for your support guys.....we MUCC as a team are really shattered when the news poured in and it has been suggested that he committed suicide.
Was a great guy to be around.....very very unfortunate and tragic. He was about 28 years old and had a great future ahead of him. Let us all join in praying for his family back home.
The deceased was Prashanth Chowkins, who has played a number of years in the greater Milwaukee internal 30-30 white ball league, The Regal series and 2007 was his first season with MUCC in the MWCC.
purdu vs flame everyone thought that it would be a exciting match but it turned into one sided match and perdu crushed flames. but it was exciting to see an 15 yrs kid who opened the inning he runs realy slow but he can bat pretty well he was playing very nice stroke on other side we took kiran early in the match out. after that a guy named rafiq played fine but he couldnt stay for longer on the other side our guys didnt give flames a chance to hit in early overs we bowled very nicely and our home boy Ruchir he bowled really fast and took three quick wicket on other hands Chintan bowled really nice and he also took three quick wicket and a player named vankit was playing nice but no one suported him and our old rivival y-arshad we took him off first ball and we rap their innings on 106/10 in 30 ovrs and when we batted we were looking good but after some time nasir and moan took three quick wickets but we just bumped over that and played some good shots and Pradeep Perera and Sachin Pahuja had a brilliant partner ship and took the match away from flames and we raped the score in 30 ovrs for loss of 3 wickets. good luck guys thats the way keep it up if there would a man of the match it would have been given to arshad yousuf sahab just kidding guys he was the only bowler who got four consecutively in last overs, but guys our champion Ruchir Saheba would be the man of the match.
Sharath i am very sorry to hear the sad news. Please pass on condolences to his family and friends back home from the entire Chicago Acers team. It is very sad to hear of any loss of a person we knew or had somehow encountered.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chicago Acers win their first game of the season by 4 wickets. West Suburban XI batted first and were immediately on the backfoot as Hasan picked up a wicket in the second over of the match. They posted 136 with the aid of 40-50 wides bowled by us. Yusuf picked up 4 wickets and Hasan 3. They were the wreckers in chief but Mohammed Ali also picked two crucial wickets. The batting got going in hurry as i went opening and took the initiative this time. The second over went for 12 runs and we were off to a rollicking start. I stayed aggressive and was playing on 44 when the clouds opened up and out came the rain in the 13th over. After an hour or so delay we decided that we didnt want to settle for the given two points and we cleaned up the field as much as we could and dried the pitch with our shoes by scraping the water from the center of the pitch. I got out a few runs later for 47 aided by 4 fours and 2 huge sixes. The second being a beautiful flick that went the distance. After that Waqar and Mohammed Ali consildated the win by playing almost 20 overs between them but in the process only 15-20 of the required 60 runs were scored off the bat as we were greatly aided by their wayward bowling as we had aided them earlier in the day. Once again Congratulations to Chicago Acers on our first win of the season and may we have many more!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow....ICC lost to Chicago Giants. Warriors handed over some real drubbing by Moline Cricket Club which should prompt someone to start a thread on lowest scores in MCC. Kudos to the captains of all the winning teams this weekend.
Challengers Vs Milwaukee Lincoln Park, Milwaukee 05/20/2007
Milwaukee won by 10 runs.
Challengers lost a close one, where Milwaukee kept their nerves and pulled out a well deserved victory.
Challengers won the toss and elected to field.
Milwaukee lost their in form opener Romesh early, but the other opener Riaz held his place very well. Milwaukee batsmen played the initial overs really well even though the run rate was low. But then the slow bowlers were brought in and they ran through the batting, with Mrudul bowling an outstanding spell claiming 4 wickets. Mrudul bowled some good left arm off spinners and mixed his quicker ones very well. He definitely is a good find for Challengers this year. Bhavesh too bowled very well to claim 3 (IIRC). Aided with some power hitting from Khawar, Milwaukee managed to reach 141.
Challengers started disastrously losing early wickets. Milwaukee bowlers were shaping the ball to move at least half a foot and ran through the top order reducing Challengers to 25/3. Then Asif rolled up his sleeves and mesmerized us with some of his spin magic and managed to take some key wickets of Mahesh and Daxx. Challengers were 53/6.
A gritty and gutsy partnership between Tushar and Gitesh managed to take Challengers to 88/6 at the break (23overs). Tushar and Gitesh continued their good form and Challengers looked like they were going to win with only 15 required off 15 overs with 4 wickets in hand. Asif wasn’t done yet, took a peach of a return catch to dismiss Tushar in his last over and struck the vital blow to reduce Challengers to 127/7. Shakir and Farrukh ran through the remainder of wickets to bundle out challengers for 131.
Batting is obviously a huge concern for us and we definitely need to work hard on our batting.
I think ICC is done... Cooked stick a folk in them... They cant even field a complete team against a good opponent... What type of team is that when they have played 2 lolly pop teams at first then get a competitive team in Chicago Giants and they CHOKE.. guys stayed home because they have crap to do or they are scared? WOW!!! Welcome to Div 2 again in 2008 see ya
We Advancers feel sorry about this shatterings new about Prasanth.Please pass on our condolence to his family.May God give his family strength to face this moment
For the second week in a row, we faced breezy, cold and cloudy conditions. Yet again, there was a strong southern wind that made it very tough to bowl from one end.
Pak won the toss and elected to bat. The opening bowlers(Priyank and Mitul) kept a very good line, restricing Pak to a score 0f 32 in 10 overs. Priyank was outstanding, forcing Hasan to play and miss a bunch of times. He also managed to get two nicks of Hasan, but both were put down. Luckily, Hasan didnt do much damage and was caught at point. The other opener, Imran kept a cool head and scored a half century. Irfan, who blasted an over pitched ball to covers was stunned when he saw Priyank(short covers) holding on to that bullet of my bowling. At the end of 20 overs, Pak was 88 for 2. Enter Shahid Munir.. you could clearly see why he is rated so highly. He ran the singles and twos very hard and when offered the length, cleared the field quite easily. He was dropped once on 67, but then got out to a well made 71. The last 20 overs went for 180 runs with Farman(62*) doing most of the damage with 6-7 sixes. Mazhar gave good support initially to Shahid and then to Farman.
To chase 280, we needed a good start from our openers, Shiv and Sameer. Shiv was unfortunately run out, but Sameer continued the good work with a couple of good hits. Aditya and Fabian were at the crease and had a good partnership going. We were 60 for 2 in 15 when it started pouring. We definitely were well within reach of 88 in 20. Pak would have breathed a sigh of relief knowing that rain came 5 overs earlier, it certainly would have been cruel from their perspective to have lost this game based on the 20 over totals.
One really wonders if this 20 over rule is fair or if D/L be introduced. I am sure there are softwares around that will let us calculate the D/L requirements. It is definitely something worth considering for next season.
Just wanted to thank Sridher Jagath(Eagles) for doing a great job umpiring. It certainly was not an easy day.. I tip my hat to his dedication, enthusiasm and knowledge of the game!!
Fast'n'furious.. ICC is not cooked or done. We had some individual emregencies and came up short. As much as we in ICC love this game, I have always saud Family comes first. So, be it 1 or 2 in 2008 ICC will still be there. Don't worry about Div 1 as we are not going to dissapoint ourselves in trying to achieve. Our ultimate goal is to make the playoffs this year and then we will go from there.
ICC vs Giants. Man it was too cold for cricket but Giant played a great game to kick our behinds. We started of weel but the run out of collins was the Jinx that we never recovered from. I hung in there till the end but lost wicket at the other end frequently and thus we scraped 76 for 8. Giants started off with a flyer as the short fielding side left a lot of openings. Once we break the opening partnership we picked uf 5 quick wickets, Aaron 2, jack 2 and one run out. but 76 was never enough as the ball got dead and the 6 wicket pick up the last 15 runs to win. Kudos to Giants. ICC ??????.
We also need to allow the teams to enter the batting and bowling figures if the match is rained out, as a lot of times the players make a good fifty or even a hundred or get a 5fer and are unable to enter the numbers. In the case of Pak and Phoenix, I'm sure Shahid (not that he needs it) and Farman would have appreciated if their scores were updated
Sheks said "We also need to allow the teams to enter the batting and bowling figures if the match is rained out, as a lot of times the players make a good fifty or even a hundred or get a 5fer and are unable to enter the numbers. In the case of Pak and Phoenix, I'm sure Shahid (not that he needs it) and Farman would have appreciated if their scores were updated"
My first three wicket haul in a long time.. I would have liked it too :). I know teams have suggested this before. How does this work in the international level? Are scores completely ignored if rain intervenes?
Jaggi as I understand it, all the records are kept in international matches, even if the match is abandoned after one ball, the data for that one ball is recorded. I think we should allow that in MCC, not only for the personal records (like Jaggi, Shahid, Farman ...) but also for NRR calculation as it is often the tie breaker come playoff time.
The debate about the rain rule is more complicated. Duckworth-Lewis first of all requires 5 years data and then based on that it makes the resources calculation (overs, wickets) for the batting side. For example, it will crunch all the numbers and come out with an average innings and scores are available for each wicket down based on the first inns score. I don't think this is applicable in MCC as we don't have computers handy at the grounds ;).
Taking the overall runrate and applying it to 20 overs might be a solution, but it could work against the side batting second if the rain arrives unexpectedly and they have been preparing for the long haul instead of 20 overs. As things stand, it is in the favor of side batting second as only the score for 20 overs is taken into account and not the wickets down. Anyone for the 'least scoring overs dropped' rule that was such a hit at the 1992 world cup ;)?
Have a good memorial day weekend all and hopefully when we resume on June 2, 3 weekend the conditions won't be as brutal (I'm thinking atleast 30 degrees warmer)!
On behalf of the Chicago Giants, I would like to express our deepest condolences to Prasanth's family and team.
As a gesture of our support for them, we plan to wear black armbands (most likely black tape) at our next game. Without being presumptuous, I would like to invite other teams to join as well.
MWCC, once again thank you guys for your great support.
after some initial autopsy and investigation reports, it has been informed to us that his body is going to be cremated tomorrow (tuesday) here in Milwaukee and the ashes will be flown back home to India.....really unfortunate for his parents not to get to see their son for one last time.
being the only son, the news would have been devastating for his mom and dad.....may they get the strength to cope with the difficult times.
Firstly let me congratulate team MCC and St. Louis for their awesome 3-0 start. great work guys. keep it up!
Good start to you too Purdue...Go Boilers!!!
Phoenix, keep up the good work, two close games which you could have wrapped up....but your efforts should pay off soon.
and yeah guys, according to ICC stipulations a game is legal if both sides bat 25 overs or more while for the records ball 1 is when book keeping starts. So I guess Raheel's suggestion warranties immediate attention and action. I think it should be enforced immediately.....not a big deal to do that right....also as pointed out earlier, one full innnings and people don't get credit for that??
We MUCC hope to use the 2 week break to recover from the tremondous loss, get back to some mental toughness and get going in the season. Thank you Royals and MWCC for your immediate support and understanding wrt the game this past sunday.
have a good long weekend break guys....me am planning to meet up with some old school buddies in Chicago this friday before heading SE to Purdue for the weekend...
Sharath, loss of life is always tragic and sad, even more so if you personally know the person or have come into direct contact with them. It puts everything into perspective and reminds us that cricket, after all is just a game!
All of us at IIT cricket club express our deepest condolences to Prasanth's family. May the Almighty give them the courage to live through these toughest of moments.
MUCC, Please accept our deepest heartfelt condolences. Its very unfortunate, tragic, and its great loss. We have a team mate in PCC who personally knows him. Please pass on our condolences to Prashant's family and friends. Hope God gives his family and Prashant's friends great strength to overcome the grief and celebrate his life!
It's disappointing to see people in this forum bash ICC for loosing this weekend.
ICC is a very good team and I have no doubt that they will make it to the playoffs and most probably top 4 by the season end.
We played a great game against them and was impressed with there on field professionalism and team discipline. Good Luck to ICC for the rest of this season.
tonald so because you all win they showed professionalism and team discipline? Hmm Give me your break down of this team if you can? bowling batting etc...
Professionalism: ICC did not give up or gave excuses for their loss. Played the entire game like true cricketer's.
Team Discipline: ICC did not start figer point at eachother for the loss. They took the loss as a team and showed that they are indeed better people. A team that gets bowled out for 77 is usually very cranky. We heard nothing but positive from them.
Bowling Analysis: A grade. We saw Jack, Rup and Aaron in action because we only played 17 overs. Jack is a very good all round athlete. He almost took Shashi's head off with his wicked fast one.
Batting: We really do not know because it did not click against us. But looking at the fact that a team that can score 300+ they have weapons.
I call that BULL SHIT. Your Chicago Giants beat the shit out of ICC this weekend. Rupnarine may be good but that over all team is old and lacking speed.
Teams like Arsenal and Madison CC will beat the shit out of ICC in the upcoming matches, sources tell me that Arsenal is waiting for ICC to serve them payback for the loss last year.
Puppu????...too long, Why don't you give the season a chance to grow old with ICC. It's only 3 weeks and you are counting us out.. Not just Arsenal, I feel everyone now wants a piece of ICC after last week defeat at the hands of Giant.
Venu(from Phoenix) compiled a list of all issues in the scheduling and has passed it on to the management. It includes certain teams playing only 12 games, some playing 15, some hosting even though they are travelling etc.
Rather than disrespecting teams just coz they lose a game, i thought i should change the topic just a little bit. I think every team in this league certainly has a number of talented players,I would say moreso batsmen than bowlers but how about wicket keepers and feilders. Can anyone think of any out standing feiders or keepers? I personally think as for keepers Imraan Taylor of AAA is by far the best. As for feilders,I thought Afroze was really impressive against us on sunday,and i also think Abdul of AAA is not too bad.
Todd Pinnington and Mahesh Parikh are probaably the best wks I have seen yet in MWCC....no offence to any one, being a wk myself and having played in Div II and Div I for two years each now......I rate these guys to be the finest......complimenting their wk abilities is their solid batting skill as well.....I have also heard a lot about Anand Balasubramanian and his classy glove work.....he must be right up there I guess.
I have yet to to play aginst Todd or Mahesh but i still think Imraan is very good and to go with solid batting, Also Imraan is the keeper for the MWCC team for the L.A OPEN.
As I said in my earlier post, I meant no offence nor was I questioning Imran's or any one else's abilities.....I have played aganist AAA three times as part of the Purdue team and then I saw how Todd and Mahesh keep and bat after I moved to MUCC. I did not get a chance to watch Anand keep/bat, but people have put in a good word about his skill often.
Mine was just an honest opinion.....I have had the good fortune to play with and learn some finer aspects of keeping from Todd and he is really miles ahead of every one else....despite the fact that I have kept in all games last year and this season so far....once again, just an honest opinion......
Please add Venkat Ramani from Flames (Currently) to the list. I had the pleasure of playing with him for past 4 yrs or so in RCC and PCC..he is absolutely astounding at the short covers..quickness, reflex-work guessing where batsmen is going to play his shot are his assets..You have to watch him to appreciate his quickness..
IVR Richards.. The master blaster fro me.. Game on I am going to him... Not Sachin Tendulkar he dont win games he is a flat track bully like all the others.. Viv inflicted fear in the bolwers
"Just wanted to thank Sridher Jagath(Eagles) for doing a great job umpiring. It certainly was not an easy day.. I tip my hat to his dedication, enthusiasm and knowledge of the game!! "
Are you sure Jaggi...i thought according to Raheel last year, he is the worst umpire in MCC, since he is the one who umpired their only loss last yr. Raheel could differentiate a thud from an edge all the way outside the boundary and this dude could not call it correctly just 22 yards away. Jaggi, you must have made a mistake, this cannot be the same guy....apparently according to Raheel he is very incompetent and does not know anything about umpiring. hmmm....
well daxx and darshan from challenger are good and quick filder. daxx can field anywhere on the ground regardless slip, point or covering boundry. darshan and daxx are safe and accurate catcher. chirag from royals, daxx from challenger, darshan from challenger and shahid from pak are best filder. this guys can create catch and 99% they can catch it.
this year challenger is not looking in good shape. i don't know if they can go all the way. they are doing too many experiment and messing with batting lineup so much. they do have good player who can bat and really hold the batting line up. having daxx, tushar, nilesh this guys can turn any match in their favour. pak, united, and wildcats have good chance this year. challenger is out of picture this year unless they come up with some plan. rumore has challenger is breaking apart.
Why do so many people think that a team ia washed up, done, and breaking up after a loss. If you play this game which I know most of you do you have to know that on any given day you can loose a game. If's left to see how well you come back after a loss and that what good teams do.
No, we are definitely not breaking up. :-) We just lost a game, and thats about it. We'll try to work harder next game.
Rup, its just a rumor, I would not really worry about it. Matter of fact, its intriguing to hear to hear such rumors, but very exciting to see we have some curious fans out there.
Guess seems like he is a Challengers fan, and we really do appreciate your support. We'll work harder next game. :-)
Well, there haven't been significant changes in majority of contending teams in Division I.
Milwaukee United, Muslim Gymkhana and Wildcats are almost unchanged.
Challengers, United CC, St.Louis, Bears have picked up one or two decent players. I still don't expect them to work miracles.
Seems as though Purdue lost a couple of players, but like other University teams, they might have picked up a few good players too. Only time will tell how good they will do, maybe Sadiq can give us a hint ;)
My hunch is that unless someone gets on a roll, Pak Gymkhana will bag their second championship.
opps, sorry Romeen! My bad, didn't mean any disrespect to Vinod or Naren, it just didn't register for some reason. Afternoon time is always a downer for me. Think I'm going to grab a Red Bull!
MUCC doesnt have fire power. they look one dimensional. purdue might have lost couple of player but most of thier key players have played last game. i think still PAK GYM is the team to beat.
Romeen, yes a few new guys. No one worth mentioning. They are more like bench warmers, will carry all our stuff around...you know, the 'Limbu-Timbu' types ;) <---winkie
Give us some credit.....we are just not Todd, Satya and Bunty..... although they may be the pillars.
We lost to Pak Gym by 1 wk...they chased 203 for victory and one by 1 wk with 1 ball to spare....after being around 180/9...we lost to challengers by 18 runs in the semi-finals.....we had a 10-3-1 record in the regular season with losses to Pak Gym, Challengers and Wildcats in the regular season last year...and satya just played in 9 of these 13 and Todd just one.
So we do have some fire power and we look like we are more of a team than being solely dependent on a select group of people.....AJ had a 97 against Bears, Sadiq ended up scoring 333 runs in the regular season.....Shyam had 20+ wkts overall to name a few....
Aanyway we are off to a rough 0-2 start and we need to come through quickly and consistently.
Sharath, In fact I think your's is a real team - team. Everybody contributes and you may not necessarily annihilate opponents but you quietly sneak up on them and hand them a defeat. I personally feel that its hard to beat teams like yours. Having said that, we are going to do our best to give you a run for your money. :) Lets just hope the weather holds up. romeen
Sure am praying for a good old June-July summer day for us to get for once a regular normal game unaffected by the rain gods....eagerly looking forward to the game agst you guys.
So is the case with my alma-mater Purdue....you always get a kick when playing agst your former team of 6 seasons.
Also cos I expect real close games agst Wildcats and Purdue cos their game and style matches what we MUCC do precisely....so Romeeen fresh from your 71*......hope you guys do not bring your "regular" cricket when you play us.
All I meant to say was....we are more of a "team"....much like Purdue, Wildcats and Phoenix to a certain extent.....we do not rely on one person/select group nor is any one in the team indispensable....that is what I think makes teams click.....balance.....now have a look at the stats..
1. have you ever seen a leg-spinner chucking?....according to their style of bowling they can never chuck/throw...unless it is an deliberate attempt of some sort....that is a basic diff between finger spinners and wrist spinners....
2. Bunty (bhavneet) has the smoothest action for a spinner in this league.
3. I am assuming you are getting confused between two people.
how can u leave sohail alvi and adnan baig.....u do not have any genuine openers in ur squad...i don't think illa-tulla are going to do much in LA...and ofcourse Satha, if he is available
I don't know how the league pick the players 4 L.A. open every year i see lot of bench warmer go to l.a. like last year nasir,giri & asmar these player are not even a leading wicket taker or a best bowler in their team but league take these player for a field trip. About sohail alvi,tehsin,masroor,adnan baig & ajit plz don't send them again & again. These players r good but u have to send some good & talented youngster who can field & stop some runs in a 20/20 game. If they like they can be a manager,coach or a selector for the team. Who is this anand guy from royals i never heard about him first he have to prove himself in MWCC then we might talk about him.
Da, LA team. Guess, I see you only got Div 1 players on your squad. Why no div 2 players??. Jack will make my MWCC team on any type of tour. This is the reason we were fighting so much for to get a Div 1 VS div 2 all star game. Out of this we can pick a core team and fill in the blanks a players fail to qualify for the tour/event. Every tour will require different skills and tallent but since we get involved only with Da LA open we get to pick one team. I went 2 years ago. got my ass whoopied in the first game bowling.. learned a lot from it so i bowled better in the next two games. fielding was miserable so it made the bowlers looked worse that what they realy were. Here is what I think is needed to win 20/20. 1)Pick batsmen who are able to go at the first ball.. there is no time to settle in. 2)Pick as many good alrounders as possible cause you will have a vary bowling attack if some one gets wacked. 3)All players must be good(+) fielders. there is no room for sluggish fielding as these grounds are not far from international standards. Not to mention the shorten the boundries to only 60 yards for this event?? 4)Part of three, if some one has a catching problem, you need to look at other options before you select him. 5)Bowlers should be selected based on ability to move/vary the ball cause fast and straight is the next flight home. If i were the selector you must fit two or more of these characteristics before you are even given a tryout??
for all this you need preparations. apparently for some unknown reason, management always picks a team a week in advance, with no criteria whatsoever. First of all, why is management picking the team? Also, i hear there is another team going from this region. does anyone know anything about it?
Regionals is a joke. There is an excuse from management every year. This yr its some BS about USACA, last yr we apparently lost the invitation in one million emails that the President gets. However, some of MWCC players are going to participate in the regionals i hear...
No sir, We are not approaching any one who gets into MWCCC top 15 list or has been or will be approached by the Management. =================================== Adnan is it only United CC or will it be a team put together under the name United CC for the tournament. =================================== The team banner is United Chicago. The formation of the team will not be only UCC.
Now this puts a wench and some hot suace into MWCC on their selection. competition will bring the best out of anyone so lets see how MWCC responds to this. Adnan, 1) is this fully funded as asked before. 2) will payers for United Chicago for the LA open get in trouble with MWCC?? (hate to dig this ants nest up. 3) Give us some criteria for selections to this team.
rup to second you, what about the players playing this weekend in the regionals? are they going to get in trouble with management. I am guessing Adnan, you are playing this weekend, since you initiated this regional participation even last year. I think you took a team along with Faisal Nafasat, Irfan (Chargers) etc to Minnesota. Who all are playing this weekend?
Adnan, I think its really cool that you guys are doing this, gives more people the opportunity to play some competitive cricket. I dont think the league will create any issue as long as you guys pick your team outside off MWCC's 15.
Have a good outing this time around too @ the regionals.......I am sure chicago's cricketing talent is going to get noticed this year.....
albiet a lot of delay let me thank you for considering me to the opening batting/wk slot last season...unfortunately I could not make it then owing to my employment constraints.....
but I have heard good things about the tournament and would like to sincerely appreciate every one involved for working together in bringing bout some attention towards the huge talent base of midwest cricket.
United Cricket Club is also participating in Central East Region Tournament this long weekend and NO the team is not based only of UCC members. To respect the privacy of those who are affraid that management might take action against them, we will have all the post match results, details and roster posted on www.unitedcricket.org web site after the long weekend.
Honest & inside info don't go hand in hand?? C'man..tell us more. I guess a bunch of us are looking like idiots right now. I think this is the second time we are having reginals in chicago area and little info is passed out. a couple years agon at WP also??. Too much F************* politics and that is why we in MWCC will never be able to showcase our talent. I remember at the last meeting Faisal Baig was realy pushing this topic but not much was realy addressed on it. SAD..SAD ..I say.
wow.. how come they pick player for regional but the best was not sselected..to me its all nepotism.. wow.. the more things change the more they remain the same Last year ICC had the two top bowlers non selected.. Three batsmen in the top 10 once again non selected.. I think IIT had a player or two worth selections.. along with other teams.. THIS IS BS to the MAX
Yes, the regionals are being conducted this weekend at Glendale Heights. There are teams from Minnesota, Michigan, etc. It would have been a great opportunity for our league to put together a good team and showcase our talent. I pushed hard for it, but was in the minority. I was told about USACA and its politics... but whatever it may be, I would have liked our players to get good exposure to players from other leagues.
i thought u were part of management jaggi. Was there some kind of voting done on wether we should participate or not? Also, what happened to the all star weekend tournament to be held this year. I thought management was going to keep one weekend off and organize an all star tournament.
We need to come up with some sort of resolution on this mess between USACA and MWCC.. The new and rising players needs some sort of platform and MWCC is way to busy on their own BS with USACA and not promoting new talent..
Goal should be promote new talent. word on the street was Vipul from Royals was also working on putting a Team out this year for regionals.
Well ,,, I have had it. Who was the smart one that suggested the "If I were" We need to form a players association..now..it should not cost much to finance and if MWCC will not finance we will do it by a seperate membership for the players association. I am tired of hearing what USACA is or is not doing. I tell you what, USACA and the ones who want to run USACA will not make much of a difference until Congress looks into this..Good luck. It's the US dollar that killing Cricket.. Look at all the leagues and bodies and the all stink in one category.. Finance. The money comes in, dissapears and yet little is being done to improve Cricket!!!!! So USA cricket is not going anywhere in the world in the near future. Why not let us enjoy what we have that's good for now in cricket. Is this asking too much???. I could keep on venting, but i won't so I need to see the "If I were" for the betterment of cricket in MWCC. I say Screw USACA for now. I will post my "If I Were"ater
well adnan from united can you tell us who you trying to take l.a open for the team you are participating in l.a open. do you have any good players in your mind.can you atleast give us a head start. maybe some of good player want to go with you, so they can approch to you if they are interesting playing for your team. i can tell you this if mcc is not sending guys i mentioned above you can get thoes guys cause they are fast & furioues..
Lemmings, is a frequently-used metaphor in reference to people who go along unquestioningly with popular opinion, with potentially dangerous or fatal consequences. Rup, you hit it right on the head; Dirty Politics have no place in Cricket. The previous 2 AGMs, we asked questions about MWCCs participation and were woven into a web that spider-man himself would have a hard time getting out of. The last AGM, the first 2 hours were taken up by talking about 30-30…apparently they want to have their own set of rules apart from the rest of the league and the administrative body was quite willing to accommodate 2hrs. for this matter. When I brought up the issue of regional’s, it was tabled at the end of the meeting and we were given some labyrinthine story about USACA and dirty politics, thus, stifling any major talent from our league being exposed to the rest of the leagues. The last couple of years UCC has been pretty much locked out of anything they offer to the league, perhaps someone from the administration can shed some light on this…Mehul tried to set up something involving some players from Trini&Tobago and heard nothing back in response. Who remembers the Mohd. Azzharuddin’s charity match and how the league reacted to anyone participating in it. Rightfully, the players, on the fear of suspension, tucked their tales between their legs and hid. Imagine your childhood hero, comes to town and you can’t play with him? We approached players for the CER the previous year, because once again, no action was taken from MWCC. Only a few brave souls took part in that,( along with the charity game) on the risk of getting suspended. Other then Rup, I have not heard any player by name at least, challenging management. It’s wonderful to have differing opinions within one league, I think, people should not be castigated just because they challenge the rule of law, right or wrong! UCC(which is different from United Cricket Conference), has always been seen as some sort of anti-culture nuisance… What’s wrong with offering different opinions? I am sure a lot of people don’t agree with us, but we are and constantly have taken heat from everyone. Please put the differences aside for the betterment of the game of cricket! Peace out!
All Star.. They gave a break.. July 14th week end.. La open Week end. Unless the schedule will change? At the meeting plans were to host the Mini World cup on Labor Day holiday week end??.
neither am i taking sides nor am i being critical/judgemental of any body. but the first thing that comes to my mind is we as caribbeans/south asians have an excellent oppurtunity of playing quite a well regarded, dencently talented, quite competitve yet amatuer cricket away from our home lands here in the US.
Not to show case it or not to further it owing to reasons that are not cricketing is really unfortunate. I have had the good fortune to play with and aginst bowlers like my ex cap girish kamthe now in the michigan league, ruchir and chintan from purdue...rup and Jack from ICC, dhiraj and mehul from UCC, shahid and raheel from pak, satya and bunty from MUCC, asif from MCC...all of whom i rate as excellent bowlers.
In the batting dept there was Devin Patel from the yesteryear GCC, Satha from Capitol, Ashwin and Grisih from Purdue, Ajit from Wildcats, Irfan Shohail from Pak, Satya, Bunty from MUCC, Aditya from phenix, Mahesh from challengers all of whom I regard as sound batsmen (I have never played against the present day St. Louis team... so cant talk about them much...I guess they must be right up there with the others).
To top it all we have had Todd amongst us till recently as a active cricketing perosanlity. The point being, to have so much of talent around, not being able to harness and utilize it to showacse on a more broader stage either at LA or at the regionals owing to resaons that are off field non-cricketing matters, just empahises how much we are screwing up the first thing we are here to do...play competitive cricket.
I have read thru some of the earlier posts as well as the blogs from before and last year, although this is my first season contributing to the same.....I guess something needs to be done pronto....not only are we not promoting cricket, we are also hampering growth and recognition as a regional cricket board....some of the ideas posted are excellent....lets get down to working on them actively without playing the blame game.
=================================== Adnan, 1) is this fully funded as asked before. 2) will payers for United Chicago for the LA open get in trouble with MWCC?? (hate to dig this ants nest up. 3) Give us some criteria for selections to this team. ============================ 1. Players pay their own airfare. UCC picked up entry fees, transportation, lodging and food. 2. As stated this is a private venture and MWCC has nothing to do with it. Therefore no cause for alarm. 3. We have a L.A. Open committee that is reposnisble for player selection, confirmation and the logistics of this tour. Contrary to the popular belief I don't dictate how we do things in UCC. ================================== hmm....so how is that you will not get banned and others will, since you are not giving out their names. ================================== Because I am not affraid. Besides this is a USACA event, which MWCC is a part of. Therefore league exclusivity rule is null and void in this case. ================================== Any thoughts on becoming the President next year? You seem to be gaining a lot of popularity, at least amongst the bloggers ;) =============================== I will keep running for the president until someone decides to run against this corrupt organization. Getting 10 votes out of 40 is a significant accomplishment. That is almost 30% of the vote. Not too far from 51% needed to oust this administration.
=================================== well adnan from united can you tell us who you trying to take l.a open for the team you are participating in l.a open. do you have any good players in your mind.can you atleast give us a head start. maybe some of good player want to go with you, so they can approch to you if they are interesting playing for your team. i can tell you this if mcc is not sending guys i mentioned above you can get thoes guys cause they are fast & furioues..
================================== we have already been labled as 'enemies of MWCC' and try to pull good players for L.A. Open will probably call for my contract. We want MWCC to pick their team first for L.A. Open before we will approach the members.
Sorry to hear about your player Prasad, Bunty, Sadiq and the rest of MUCC. It is pretty sad and sudden. Please let us know if we can do anything to help ease the burden of the deceased's family.
1 & 2 is fair enough for me. 3??. L. A open selection commettee. We need the criteria they will be using for this Team.. Just curious?. This blog has lighted up?. MWCC should be concerned about the amount of disgust in it's players.. New Topic. please tell me ICC is the only one who wants to give the New Ball we got this season away to charity?. These balls are either the worst piece of S*** management has put their hands on, or just being cheap at the same expense?. Or my appologies MWCC for ICC could have gotten the worst two boxes??. They look like beautiful dark cherries but i think some one or many is covering some crap here. By the way if any one of you think they are good and want to trade for last season balls ICC has 9 to trade. Give me 5 of last season balls and i will gladly give you 9 ripe dark cherries!!!.
Ok guys do I have some taker on this ball thing or I am going E-bay. may be i can sell them to some team in the third world countries??.
Adnan If UCC will wait till MCC selects this could ne a week before the tour. Has anyone consulted MWCC as to UCC agenda so both parties can have ample time to put their squad together.
RUP said -------------- may be i can sell them to some team in the third world countries??. ---------------
Dude, there is no third world. if there is one you are from one of them too. anyway CA balls from pakistan and they are known to make good balls with england and aussies.
================================= Adnan If UCC will wait till MCC selects this could ne a week before the tour. Has anyone consulted MWCC as to UCC agenda so both parties can have ample time to put their squad together. =============================== Rup it is really difficult to talk to the Management as Faisal eluded earlier in the blog. We have been 'identified' therefore even good intentions sometimes come across as threatening. If anyone is interested in representing United Chicago from MWCC, please contact Mehul Shani and let the management know that you will not be available for L.A. Open selection. But, why would you pay your own way when MWCC is taking you free of charge?
You are to slow for me Neanderthal. You realy replicate your name. You see, I came from a third world country, Which we poor countries are called. I now live in a more economically stable country thus known as the industralized nations. My Point??? if these guys could sell these junk to us in the USA why i can't sell them to a Neanderthal living in a third world country??. Tell me why??
My Point??? if these guys could sell these junk to us in the USA why i can't sell them to a Neanderthal living in a third world country??. Tell me why??
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thats because u got no brain. maybe too much smoke. anyway let me break it down for you.
if CA balls made in pakistan, how do you going to sell them back to someone in that part of world at a cheaper rate? its common sense to tell the least.
no one other than so called developed counties (and their media) use "third world countries".
well first learn the economics 101 then i will get to "stable economies".
neanderthan maybe slow but won't repeat everything and everyone like a chimp though.
May be we can pay Neanderthal's fare to go to England and Australia. Have him watch a game where he gave the English and Aussies one of these balls to play with. After the 4 th over i will like to see the look on Neanderthal's face as the bowler/team is walking toward him..Just imagine what the verbage will be??
as mentioned in one the later paragaraphs of my earlier post, that read "the point being"....we have too much talent as specified via the examples on the brief list that come to my mind when I wrote that....to see it go waste, when we can do something tht is genuinely useful is unfortunate....these guys put together and coached appropriately will def make one heck of a team on the regional and national scene......we are letting that heppen for things that are not related to cricket.....and then we are playing balme game...when we could use that time to do something constructive....hope this sort of answers your query?
"if CA balls made in pakistan, how do you going to sell them back to someone in that part of world at a cheaper rate? its common sense to tell the least." You just go slower Neanderthal?? surprise you menttioned Econ 101. did you see the word profit in this course??. Here is an explanation. I sell it cheaper to the poor and they will turn and sell to you for the price the sell it to the league= Profit?. If you have never came across the word third world take Geography 0001, History. 00001 and Business 000001. After these counses you will understand why the US $$ is 33 rupees to 1, and where I came from it's 200 to 1 US$.
I was checking the MCC website for scores. I noticed that the Batsman scores are now in bold letters. Good to see atleast some change in the age old website.
This makes me remember that during one AGM held in April 2006 last year, Tariq was mentioning that they had developed a totally new website for MWCC. He was even willing to show us the demo of it in that meeting. But we never heard after that about the website.
When it comes to frustration with the management team for so many issues. the blame really belongs with us mostly. Not all of us, because some are trying to make a change because they are unhappy. But enough of us that there hasn't been a change as yet!
We are the ones who vote for this management team. If you are so unhappy about it, then do something about it. One doesn't have to get negative and personal to participate in an election. I hear people complain and stuff, but then this management team has been in office for a number of years - 10??? So who is to blame - them for doing what everyone knows they will do, or us for continiuing to vote them to power if we are so unhappy with them. At election time, guess who gets the votes? It is our responsibility to get your team vote given to the proper candidate.
The management doesn't need to be the only ones that run and organize everything. They need help in organizing and researching some activities. If we are so concerned, why don't we take some initiatives and help out? Obviously management is required to coordinate activities, but if everything is left to just them, then don't expect too much. They don't have the manpower, and they aren't getting paid for it!!
Also, the MWCC is not a professional league and we don't have contracts. So, the management isn't some all powerful body that we need to be afraid of. It seems like everyone fears management retribution. Why? What hold do they have on us? We have management to coordinate and manage activities, and provide guidance when needed. But that's where it ends. They should not and cannot curb us, specially when all we want is the betterment and expansion of our league. So, if you don't like the "exclusivity rule", then make a motion to get rid of it, and get it passed. Do something about it.
I'm not trying to bash on the management. Maybe they are doing a good job. Maybe they are not. Either way, they aren't new to us that we can claim we didn't know how they'd run things. We know. They are a known and proven commodity. And they have limited resources (man-power).
Please do something when you have the chance. Whether that is to help the current management out, or to replace them.
guys lets talk abt something else.....I might try to stop by Glendale heights to watch the games this weekend, before heading off to purdue...... any one else planning on stopping by and may be having a beer or two...?
also aditya, I noticed that DC is not on your roster for the first two games, is he still around or is he just caught up with work or something...
Why are we all complaining about this and that when all we wanna do is play cricket. This is as Aditya said not a professional league We had elections less than a year ago and 30 teams voted for the current management so all the ones complainig should take their personnal agendas elsewhere, may be the glendale heights league As for Rup i know a lot of people rspect u coz of ur crickting abilities and man u seem to losing a lot of it by baseless arguing with people who im sure just wanna spite u. Rup u better than them dont stoop so low
DC is playing with us. He was unable to play the first 2 games, but played the game against Pak Gym. Unfortunately, that was rained out, so you didn't see him on the roster.
abhi said - "I don't know how the league pick the players 4 L.A. open every year i see lot of bench warmer go to l.a. like last year nasir,giri & asmar these player are not even a leading wicket taker or a best bowler in their team but league take these player for a field trip." --------------------------- Abhi - Just to clarify, MWCC held trials for the LA CUP two years ago. I was selected on the basis of those trials and did reasonably well in at least one of the games. I'm not being defensive, just informative.
I am sick of players saying we need help but no on from management is going to publish on the MCC page, what we need help for. Well,, I am an accountant by proffession who happens to play cricket. If MWCC needs help in accounting let me know and i will try to help. I do help out umpiring sometimes . I guess when promisses are made and not fullfilled you will see anger and frustration. any married guy can tell you that?.
Asmar, I am happy for you that you got selected after your showing in the trials. For every success story, there are quite a few failed ones. A fellow cricketer was invited, played very well at the trials and after that never heard back. He didnt know if he was selected/rejected. I think the team was announced(if it was) very late and I do know that it didnt go well with him.
I sense a great deal of frustration in this blog against the current MCC Management / Regime. Leagues actions makes me think of them as good ole boys club, who thinks that they can get away with anything.
I think you guys every year complain complain and complain but that is as far as many of you go. Complaining has not worked for you all so far so I am not sure how you all will impact change.
DON'T FORGET? We all pay pretty decent money $$$$$ to play in this league. Since we do not play in MCC for FREE so I urge you all to think of yourself as paying customers of MCC. We all should be able to demand better service, facility etc.
HISTORY TELLS US? Change requires sacrifice.
DEMAND CHANGE BY?
** Demand a face to face meeting with the league where its about you and your pain point. Make them listen to you and hold them accountable. Work with league management to help improve this league. No more under the table deals, friendship based tournament team selection, or continuos spinnig of fact by the the King of Spin Mr Spiderman (Tariq.
**Committing to sit your teams out for a year if this Management does not change its DICTATORSHIP STYLE and starts listening to its customers. I bet any money if 20 teams sat out a season this will hit the league in the pocket books really hard.
IF ALL OF THE ABOVE DOES NOT WORK THEN - Overthrow the current Management / Regime by making sure you all VOTE as a team against them in the next election.
CAMPAIGN FOR OFFICE? Those that want to run for office should come together and create / share with everyone in the league on why and how can you run this league better. (Talk is cheap so these people want to see vision and a a concrete plan that makes budgetary sense)
Wanting change or constructive criticism is alright, but hitting below the belt is not required. I'll still support Adnan for President next year, I just hope that he runs a positive campaign.
I am curious to know how many of you have the authority(within your team) to vote? There is a gap between mgmt and team, but there is also a gap between team captain(mgmt) and team members.
I don't understand why people get annoyed because Adnan decides to send a team to LA.
He's giving more players a chance to play against star cricketers from around the world.
And its not as if he's stealing away cricketers from the MWCC. Not to mention, he's paying the entry fees out of his own pocket. Instead of giving him credit, we're putting up idiotic, hypothetical scenarios to bash him.
Dude Tango.. I posed a question to Adnan and not you. Second, this was not intended to put Adnan down. I applaud his efforts, but, I think its a legitimate question... so let the man answer.
"Dude Tango.. I posed a question to Adnan and not you."
I wasn't answering your question!
"Second, this was not intended to put Adnan down. I applaud his efforts,"
Oh yes, and we all have telepathic powers, so we completely understand whats going on in your head. No need to mention such things, right? :) <--sarcastic smiley
"I think its a legitimate question... so let the man answer"
Correct, after all, there are no stupid question....just stupid people! (Famous quote by Mr. Garrison)
Ok, so you think I have telepathic powers to realize whom you were answering?Why cant you mention whom you were answering. Stupid or not, I was asking Adnan... so still dont quite understand why you have to butt in.
hehehe...select adnan and faisal for LA team. That is impossible.
I think like Adnan said if you want to get selected for his team let management know that you are not available for the MWCC official team. On the other hand who would want to pay for the trip when you get a free ride for the LA open thru MWCC.
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1.Purdue will win over Flames.
2.Capitol will upset St.Louis (Home court advantage).
3.Muslim and Chargers good one i pick Chargers to win.
4.Phoenix will pull out a huge upset against Pak gym.
5.Miwaukee cricket club will beat Challengers.
6.MUCC will win over Royals.
7.Rogers park will win a close one over Wildcats.
8.Bears and AAA a close one also with a AAA victory.
Just the predication for fun don't wanna Offend anyone.
Due to the unfortunate demise of one of our team mates two days back, we do not think it would be appropriate for us to play this weekend. We plan to reschedule the game against Royals.
Our sincere condolences and support to his family in India.
sharath
Sharat,
I am very sorry to hear that plz give my sincere condolences to your teammate & his family back home.
Am sorry to hear that. Please pass on my condolences !!
Thanks for your support guys.....we MUCC as a team are really shattered when the news poured in and it has been suggested that he committed suicide.
Was a great guy to be around.....very very unfortunate and tragic. He was about 28 years old and had a great future ahead of him. Let us all join in praying for his family back home.
Deepest sympathies to his folks.
MUCC team
Please inform us on the identity of deceased.
However it happened it is indeed really sad.
The deceased was Prashanth Chowkins, who has played a number of years in the greater Milwaukee internal 30-30 white ball league, The Regal series and 2007 was his first season with MUCC in the MWCC.
sharath
Sharath,
Our deepest sympathies and condolonces to his family.
United C.C.
Sharat,
Please pass on our prayers and condolences to Prashanth's family, friends, and his team mates.
Aditya
Sharat,
Very sorry to hear this tragic news. Our prayers are with Prashanth's family.
Wildcats CC
any results from todays matches?
Chargers beat Muslim Gymkhana.
Kamran (Chargers) 95 n.o
Hilal (Chargers) 60
Chargers 260
Muslim Gymkhana 210
Our whole Midwest CC passes on its Condolences to Prashant's family. Nothing can be more painful than loosing a young son. May GOD bless his soul.
Mirchi Pathan
purdu vs flame
everyone thought that it would be a exciting match but it turned into one sided match and perdu crushed flames.
but it was exciting to see an 15 yrs kid who opened the inning he runs realy slow but he can bat pretty well he was playing very nice stroke on other side we took kiran early in the match out. after that a guy named rafiq played fine but he couldnt stay for longer on the other side our guys didnt give flames a chance to hit in early overs we bowled very nicely and our home boy Ruchir he bowled really fast and took three quick wicket on other hands Chintan bowled really nice and he also took three quick wicket and a player named vankit was playing nice but no one suported him and our old rivival y-arshad we took him off first ball and we rap their innings on 106/10 in 30 ovrs and when we batted we were looking good but after some time nasir and moan took three quick wickets but we just bumped over that and played some good shots and Pradeep Perera and Sachin Pahuja had a brilliant partner ship and took the match away from flames and we raped the score in 30 ovrs for loss of 3 wickets.
good luck guys thats the way keep it up if there would a man of the match it would have been given to arshad yousuf sahab just kidding guys he was the only bowler who got four consecutively in last overs, but guys our champion Ruchir Saheba would be the man of the match.
Sharath i am very sorry to hear the sad news. Please pass on condolences to his family and friends back home from the entire Chicago Acers team. It is very sad to hear of any loss of a person we knew or had somehow encountered.
"and we raped the score in 30 ovrs for loss of 3 wickets."
lol
Sharath,
Please pass our deepest condolences to Prashant's Family. He will be in our prayers.
May God give his family the strength.
Challengers CC
Sharath,
I'm terribly sorry to hear this. Please convey our heartfelt condolences to his family.
Hari
NoStars CC
sorry to hear about the unfortunate demise. please pass our condolences.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chicago Acers win their first game of the season by 4 wickets. West Suburban XI batted first and were immediately on the backfoot as Hasan picked up a wicket in the second over of the match. They posted 136 with the aid of 40-50 wides bowled by us. Yusuf picked up 4 wickets and Hasan 3. They were the wreckers in chief but Mohammed Ali also picked two crucial wickets. The batting got going in hurry as i went opening and took the initiative this time. The second over went for 12 runs and we were off to a rollicking start. I stayed aggressive and was playing on 44 when the clouds opened up and out came the rain in the 13th over. After an hour or so delay we decided that we didnt want to settle for the given two points and we cleaned up the field as much as we could and dried the pitch with our shoes by scraping the water from the center of the pitch. I got out a few runs later for 47 aided by 4 fours and 2 huge sixes. The second being a beautiful flick that went the distance. After that Waqar and Mohammed Ali consildated the win by playing almost 20 overs between them but in the process only 15-20 of the required 60 runs were scored off the bat as we were greatly aided by their wayward bowling as we had aided them earlier in the day. Once again Congratulations to Chicago Acers on our first win of the season and may we have many more!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From the entire AAA team,Please pass our sincere condolances to Prasanths family, freinds and teammates.
Wow....ICC lost to Chicago Giants. Warriors handed over some real drubbing by Moline Cricket Club which should prompt someone to start a thread on lowest scores in MCC. Kudos to the captains of all the winning teams this weekend.
Challengers Vs Milwaukee
Lincoln Park, Milwaukee 05/20/2007
Milwaukee won by 10 runs.
Challengers lost a close one, where Milwaukee kept their nerves and pulled out a well deserved victory.
Challengers won the toss and elected to field.
Milwaukee lost their in form opener Romesh early, but the other opener Riaz held his place very well.
Milwaukee batsmen played the initial overs really well even though the run rate was low.
But then the slow bowlers were brought in and they ran through the batting, with Mrudul bowling an outstanding spell claiming 4 wickets. Mrudul bowled some good left arm off spinners and mixed his quicker ones very well. He definitely is a good find for Challengers this year. Bhavesh too bowled very well to claim 3 (IIRC).
Aided with some power hitting from Khawar, Milwaukee managed to reach 141.
Challengers started disastrously losing early wickets. Milwaukee bowlers were shaping the ball to move at least half a foot and ran through the top order reducing Challengers to 25/3. Then Asif rolled up his sleeves and mesmerized us with some of his spin magic and managed to take some key wickets of Mahesh and Daxx. Challengers were 53/6.
A gritty and gutsy partnership between Tushar and Gitesh managed to take Challengers to 88/6 at the break (23overs).
Tushar and Gitesh continued their good form and Challengers looked like they were going to win with only 15 required off 15 overs with 4 wickets in hand.
Asif wasn’t done yet, took a peach of a return catch to dismiss Tushar in his last over and struck the vital blow to reduce Challengers to 127/7.
Shakir and Farrukh ran through the remainder of wickets to bundle out challengers for 131.
Batting is obviously a huge concern for us and we definitely need to work hard on our batting.
I think ICC is done... Cooked stick a folk in them... They cant even field a complete team against a good opponent... What type of team is that when they have played 2 lolly pop teams at first then get a competitive team in Chicago Giants and they CHOKE.. guys stayed home because they have crap to do or they are scared?
WOW!!! Welcome to Div 2 again in 2008 see ya
We Advancers feel sorry about this shatterings new about Prasanth.Please pass on our condolence to his family.May God give his family strength to face this moment
From ICC we send our deepest condolances to Prasanth entire family on their recent Loss.
May the lord give you all strength as you mourn such a loss.
For the second week in a row, we faced breezy, cold and cloudy conditions. Yet again, there was a strong southern wind that made it very tough to bowl from one end.
Pak won the toss and elected to bat. The opening bowlers(Priyank and Mitul) kept a very good line, restricing Pak to a score 0f 32 in 10 overs. Priyank was outstanding, forcing Hasan to play and miss a bunch of times. He also managed to get two nicks of Hasan, but both were put down. Luckily, Hasan didnt do much damage and was caught at point. The other opener, Imran kept a cool head and scored a half century. Irfan, who blasted an over pitched ball to covers was stunned when he saw Priyank(short covers) holding on to that bullet of my bowling. At the end of 20 overs, Pak was 88 for 2. Enter Shahid Munir.. you could clearly see why he is rated so highly. He ran the singles and twos very hard and when offered the length, cleared the field quite easily. He was dropped once on 67, but then got out to a well made 71. The last 20 overs went for 180 runs with Farman(62*) doing most of the damage with 6-7 sixes. Mazhar gave good support initially to Shahid and then to Farman.
To chase 280, we needed a good start from our openers, Shiv and Sameer. Shiv was unfortunately run out, but Sameer continued the good work with a couple of good hits. Aditya and Fabian were at the crease and had a good partnership going. We were 60 for 2 in 15 when it started pouring. We definitely were well within reach of 88 in 20. Pak would have breathed a sigh of relief knowing that rain came 5 overs earlier, it certainly would have been cruel from their perspective to have lost this game based on the 20 over totals.
One really wonders if this 20 over rule is fair or if D/L be introduced. I am sure there are softwares around that will let us calculate the D/L requirements. It is definitely something worth considering for next season.
Just wanted to thank Sridher Jagath(Eagles) for doing a great job umpiring. It certainly was not an easy day.. I tip my hat to his dedication, enthusiasm and knowledge of the game!!
Fast'n'furious.. ICC is not cooked or done. We had some individual emregencies and came up short.
As much as we in ICC love this game, I have always saud Family comes first. So, be it 1 or 2 in 2008 ICC will still be there.
Don't worry about Div 1 as we are not going to dissapoint ourselves in trying to achieve.
Our ultimate goal is to make the playoffs this year and then we will go from there.
ICC vs Giants.
Man it was too cold for cricket but Giant played a great game to kick our behinds.
We started of weel but the run out of collins was the Jinx that we never recovered from. I hung in there till the end but lost wicket at the other end frequently and thus we scraped 76 for 8.
Giants started off with a flyer as the short fielding side left a lot of openings.
Once we break the opening partnership we picked uf 5 quick wickets, Aaron 2, jack 2 and one run out. but 76 was never enough as the ball got dead and the 6 wicket pick up the last 15 runs to win.
Kudos to Giants. ICC ??????.
We also need to allow the teams to enter the batting and bowling figures if the match is rained out, as a lot of times the players make a good fifty or even a hundred or get a 5fer and are unable to enter the numbers.
In the case of Pak and Phoenix, I'm sure Shahid (not that he needs it) and Farman would have appreciated if their scores were updated
surprises of the season so far.
Milwaukee Cricket Club starts the season 3-0 (only won 5 games last year)
Milwaukee United starts the season 0-2 (lost only 3 games last season)
Sheks said "We also need to allow the teams to enter the batting and bowling figures if the match is rained out, as a lot of times the players make a good fifty or even a hundred or get a 5fer and are unable to enter the numbers.
In the case of Pak and Phoenix, I'm sure Shahid (not that he needs it) and Farman would have appreciated if their scores were updated"
My first three wicket haul in a long time.. I would have liked it too :). I know teams have suggested this before.
How does this work in the international level? Are scores completely ignored if rain intervenes?
Jaggi Said
"My first three wicket haul in a long time.. I would have liked it too :). "
Good show Jaggi man, hardluck with the score entry... :-)
Jaggi ..
Robin Singh's only hundred in ODIs came against Srilanka in a rained out match.
So .. MCC should allow us to enter the rained out matches scores ...
Jaggi as I understand it, all the records are kept in international matches, even if the match is abandoned after one ball, the data for that one ball is recorded. I think we should allow that in MCC, not only for the personal records (like Jaggi, Shahid, Farman ...) but also for NRR calculation as it is often the tie breaker come playoff time.
The debate about the rain rule is more complicated. Duckworth-Lewis first of all requires 5 years data and then based on that it makes the resources calculation (overs, wickets) for the batting side. For example, it will crunch all the numbers and come out with an average innings and scores are available for each wicket down based on the first inns score. I don't think this is applicable in MCC as we don't have computers handy at the grounds ;).
Taking the overall runrate and applying it to 20 overs might be a solution, but it could work against the side batting second if the rain arrives unexpectedly and they have been preparing for the long haul instead of 20 overs. As things stand, it is in the favor of side batting second as only the score for 20 overs is taken into account and not the wickets down. Anyone for the 'least scoring overs dropped' rule that was such a hit at the 1992 world cup ;)?
Have a good memorial day weekend all and hopefully when we resume on June 2, 3 weekend the conditions won't be as brutal (I'm thinking atleast 30 degrees warmer)!
On behalf of the Chicago Giants, I would like to express our deepest condolences to Prasanth's family and team.
As a gesture of our support for them, we plan to wear black armbands (most likely black tape) at our next game. Without being presumptuous, I would like to invite other teams to join as well.
-Shashi
I did forget to add that both Phoenix and Pak Gymkhana observed a minute of silence remembering Prashanth before the start of the game.
MWCC, once again thank you guys for your great support.
after some initial autopsy and investigation reports, it has been informed to us that his body is going to be cremated tomorrow (tuesday) here in Milwaukee and the ashes will be flown back home to India.....really unfortunate for his parents not to get to see their son for one last time.
being the only son, the news would have been devastating for his mom and dad.....may they get the strength to cope with the difficult times.
sharath and MUCC team
Firstly let me congratulate team MCC and St. Louis for their awesome 3-0 start. great work guys. keep it up!
Good start to you too Purdue...Go Boilers!!!
Phoenix, keep up the good work, two close games which you could have wrapped up....but your efforts should pay off soon.
and yeah guys, according to ICC stipulations a game is legal if both sides bat 25 overs or more while for the records ball 1 is when book keeping starts. So I guess Raheel's suggestion warranties immediate attention and action. I think it should be enforced immediately.....not a big deal to do that right....also as pointed out earlier, one full innnings and people don't get credit for that??
We MUCC hope to use the 2 week break to recover from the tremondous loss, get back to some mental toughness and get going in the season. Thank you Royals and MWCC for your immediate support and understanding wrt the game this past sunday.
have a good long weekend break guys....me am planning to meet up with some old school buddies in Chicago this friday before heading SE to Purdue for the weekend...
sharath
Sharath, loss of life is always tragic and sad, even more so if you personally know the person or have come into direct contact with them. It puts everything into perspective and reminds us that cricket, after all is just a game!
All of us at IIT cricket club express our deepest condolences to Prasanth's family. May the Almighty give them the courage to live through these toughest of moments.
MUCC,
Please accept our deepest heartfelt condolences. Its very unfortunate, tragic, and its great loss. We have a team mate in PCC who personally knows him. Please pass on our condolences to Prashant's family and friends. Hope God gives his family and Prashant's friends great strength to overcome the grief and celebrate his life!
Sincerely,
Madhu Reddy
On behalf of PCC family
It's disappointing to see people in this forum bash ICC for loosing this weekend.
ICC is a very good team and I have no doubt that they will make it to the playoffs and most probably top 4 by the season end.
We played a great game against them and was impressed with there on field professionalism and team discipline. Good Luck to ICC for the rest of this season.
tonald so because you all win they showed professionalism and team discipline?
Hmm Give me your break down of this team if you can? bowling batting etc...
Fast and Curious ;-)
Professionalism: ICC did not give up or gave excuses for their loss. Played the entire game like true cricketer's.
Team Discipline: ICC did not start figer point at eachother for the loss. They took the loss as a team and showed that they are indeed better people. A team that gets bowled out for 77 is usually very cranky. We heard nothing but positive from them.
Bowling Analysis: A grade. We saw Jack, Rup and Aaron in action because we only played 17 overs. Jack is a very good all round athlete. He almost took Shashi's head off with his wicked fast one.
Batting: We really do not know because it did not click against us. But looking at the fact that a team that can score 300+ they have weapons.
Fair enough?
Tonald,
I call that BULL SHIT. Your Chicago Giants beat the shit out of ICC this weekend. Rupnarine may be good but that over all team is old and lacking speed.
Teams like Arsenal and Madison CC will beat the shit out of ICC in the upcoming matches, sources tell me that Arsenal is waiting for ICC to serve them payback for the loss last year.
ICC is done.
Puppu????...too long,
Why don't you give the season a chance to grow old with ICC. It's only 3 weeks and you are counting us out..
Not just Arsenal, I feel everyone now wants a piece of ICC after last week defeat at the hands of Giant.
Isn't Kamran Siddiqui from Chargers, Irfan's kid brother?
Looks as though he played a killer knock this weekend (95 of 56).
Well done!
tonald thanks bro...
nah I dont think icc is done.. They have a bump in the road
Yeah Tango, u r right. Kamran played a couple of explosive innings last year. Mehul, rates him pretty high.
Rumor has it that we are only playing 12 games in Div 2 this season.
Can anyone confirm this.
Rup ..
Your bad luck :) NoStars is playing 15 games ... including twice against Q C Kings.
Lot of issues in scheduling this time ...
Venu(from Phoenix) compiled a list of all issues in the scheduling and has passed it on to the management. It includes certain teams playing only 12 games, some playing 15, some hosting even though they are travelling etc.
Rather than disrespecting teams just coz they lose a game, i thought i should change the topic just a little bit.
I think every team in this league certainly has a number of talented players,I would say moreso batsmen than bowlers but how about wicket keepers and feilders.
Can anyone think of any out standing feiders or keepers?
I personally think as for keepers Imraan Taylor of AAA is by far the best.
As for feilders,I thought Afroze was really impressive against us on sunday,and i also think Abdul of AAA is not too bad.
Afroze, Shahid, Kiran and Chirag Patel are probably the best fielders in Division I.
Todd Pinnington and Mahesh Parikh are probaably the best wks I have seen yet in MWCC....no offence to any one, being a wk myself and having played in Div II and Div I for two years each now......I rate these guys to be the finest......complimenting their wk abilities is their solid batting skill as well.....I have also heard a lot about Anand Balasubramanian and his classy glove work.....he must be right up there I guess.
sharath
Yes Todd Pinnington and Mahesh Parikh are definitely the best keepers in the league, but Todd is miles ahead of anyone else!
I have yet to to play aginst Todd or Mahesh but i still think Imraan is very good and to go with solid batting,
Also Imraan is the keeper for the MWCC team for the L.A OPEN.
Zimbo,
As I said in my earlier post, I meant no offence nor was I questioning Imran's or any one else's abilities.....I have played aganist AAA three times as part of the Purdue team and then I saw how Todd and Mahesh keep and bat after I moved to MUCC. I did not get a chance to watch Anand keep/bat, but people have put in a good word about his skill often.
Mine was just an honest opinion.....I have had the good fortune to play with and learn some finer aspects of keeping from Todd and he is really miles ahead of every one else....despite the fact that I have kept in all games last year and this season so far....once again, just an honest opinion......
sharath
who are the most difficult and unorthodox bowlers in the league?
who do you think u want to play for you when game is on line?
"who do you think u want to play for you when game is on line? "
Kobe Bryant...!!! no brainer..
Please add Venkat Ramani from Flames (Currently) to the list. I had the pleasure of playing with him for past 4 yrs or so in RCC and PCC..he is absolutely astounding at the short covers..quickness, reflex-work guessing where batsmen is going to play his shot are his assets..You have to watch him to appreciate his quickness..
Kamran Khan from Muslim Gymkhana is also a great fielder!
Collectively, I think Royals are probably the best fielding side in Division I.
time_pass...i am sure u r right for BB...how about MWCC cricket league?
"who do you think u want to play for you when game is on line? "
shahid munir
Hammad....
IVR Richards.. The master blaster fro me.. Game on I am going to him...
Not Sachin Tendulkar he dont win games he is a flat track bully like all the others..
Viv inflicted fear in the bolwers
Here are my flat track bully batmen :
lara
Sachin
the two best are flat track bullies
Jaggi said...
"Just wanted to thank Sridher Jagath(Eagles) for doing a great job umpiring. It certainly was not an easy day.. I tip my hat to his dedication, enthusiasm and knowledge of the game!! "
Are you sure Jaggi...i thought according to Raheel last year, he is the worst umpire in MCC, since he is the one who umpired their only loss last yr. Raheel could differentiate a thud from an edge all the way outside the boundary and this dude could not call it correctly just 22 yards away. Jaggi, you must have made a mistake, this cannot be the same guy....apparently according to Raheel he is very incompetent and does not know anything about umpiring. hmmm....
I think the original question was "If the game is on the line, who would you go to?
It could be for batting or bowling...
so MWCC wise Shahid was a good answer..
Richards can only be used if you are batting...
To me the right answer would be:
past players:
Gary Sobers or Zaheer Abbas.
Current:
Andy Symonds
Or even Chris Gayle - Cool customer
Kobe Bryant, Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar?
Why are we talking about them?
I thought we were talking about the cricketers in MWCC.
As far as clutch batsman in our league go, I'd put Mehul Shani at the top, with Bhavneet right behind him.
Shahid
Mehul
Bhavneet
Satya, Dax?
well daxx and darshan from challenger are good and quick filder. daxx can field anywhere on the ground regardless slip, point or covering boundry. darshan and daxx are safe and accurate catcher.
chirag from royals, daxx from challenger, darshan from challenger and shahid from pak are best filder. this guys can create catch and 99% they can catch it.
this year challenger is not looking in good shape. i don't know if they can go all the way. they are doing too many experiment and messing with batting lineup so much. they do have good player who can bat and really hold the batting line up. having daxx, tushar, nilesh this guys can turn any match in their favour. pak, united, and wildcats have good chance this year. challenger is out of picture this year unless they come up with some plan. rumore has challenger is breaking apart.
hate to see good teams are wasting their talents.
Why do so many people think that a team ia washed up, done, and breaking up after a loss.
If you play this game which I know most of you do you have to know that on any given day you can loose a game.
If's left to see how well you come back after a loss and that what good teams do.
No, we are definitely not breaking up. :-)
We just lost a game, and thats about it. We'll try to work harder next game.
Rup, its just a rumor, I would not really worry about it. Matter of fact, its intriguing to hear to hear such rumors, but very exciting to see we have some curious fans out there.
Guess seems like he is a Challengers fan, and we really do appreciate your support.
We'll work harder next game. :-)
guys thats the word on the street that ICC is done... All I can say is lets wait and see what they are made of..
I just hope we have an open season this time instead of one team dominating like Pak did last time, which teams have potential to beat them?
Well, there haven't been significant changes in majority of contending teams in Division I.
Milwaukee United, Muslim Gymkhana and Wildcats are almost unchanged.
Challengers, United CC, St.Louis, Bears have picked up one or two decent players. I still don't expect them to work miracles.
Seems as though Purdue lost a couple of players, but like other University teams, they might have picked up a few good players too. Only time will tell how good they will do, maybe Sadiq can give us a hint ;)
My hunch is that unless someone gets on a roll, Pak Gymkhana will bag their second championship.
Tango,
The wildcats have 2 new players, Vinod and Naren. Both are very good players, most people already know Vinod and naren is new.
opps, sorry Romeen!
My bad, didn't mean any disrespect to Vinod or Naren, it just didn't register for some reason. Afternoon time is always a downer for me.
Think I'm going to grab a Red Bull!
MUCC doesnt have fire power. they look one dimensional. purdue might have lost couple of player but most of thier key players have played last game. i think still PAK GYM is the team to beat.
Todd, Satya and Bhavneet have plenty of fire power.
They are like the Sri Lankan team, they only play spinners and medium-pacers :)
they do but rest look pretty ordinary when up againts good bowling attacks like of PAK or CHALLENGERS, i doubt their chances
Challengers have been their 'bogey' team over the past few years. Maybe they'll break out of the shell this year.
MUCC need some good bowlers. their current attack not going be effective on concrete wickets
Tango, no offense taken, I just meant to inform you.
Does your team have any new players this year?
Romeen, yes a few new guys. No one worth mentioning. They are more like bench warmers, will carry all our stuff around...you know, the 'Limbu-Timbu' types ;) <---winkie
folks,
Give us some credit.....we are just not Todd, Satya and Bunty.....
although they may be the pillars.
We lost to Pak Gym by 1 wk...they chased 203 for victory and one by 1 wk with 1 ball to spare....after being around 180/9...we lost to challengers by 18 runs in the semi-finals.....we had a 10-3-1 record in the regular season with losses to Pak Gym, Challengers and Wildcats in the regular season last year...and satya just played in 9 of these 13 and Todd just one.
So we do have some fire power and we look like we are more of a team than being solely dependent on a select group of people.....AJ had a 97 against Bears, Sadiq ended up scoring 333 runs in the regular season.....Shyam had 20+ wkts overall to name a few....
Aanyway we are off to a rough 0-2 start and we need to come through quickly and consistently.
sharath
Sharath,
In fact I think your's is a real team - team. Everybody contributes and you may not necessarily annihilate opponents but you quietly sneak up on them and hand them a defeat. I personally feel that its hard to beat teams like yours. Having said that, we are going to do our best to give you a run for your money. :)
Lets just hope the weather holds up.
romeen
Tango, you must be from bombay, nobody else says limbu-timbu.
Romeen,
Thanks for note of appreciation.
Sure am praying for a good old June-July summer day for us to get for once a regular normal game unaffected by the rain gods....eagerly looking forward to the game agst you guys.
So is the case with my alma-mater Purdue....you always get a kick when playing agst your former team of 6 seasons.
Also cos I expect real close games agst Wildcats and Purdue cos their game and style matches what we MUCC do precisely....so Romeeen fresh from your 71*......hope you guys do not bring your "regular" cricket when you play us.
sharath
this is the bowling stats for MUCC last year. you see there are not so much going on there.
Satya 69.7 21 10.9 3.29
Shyam 90.4 20 18.35 4.06
Bhavneet 77.4 12 26.08 4.0
Javed 48.6 12 17.33 4.28
Shiv 33 5 10 13.7 4.15
Prasad 57.5 09 29.89 4.69
neanderthal walking,
All I meant to say was....we are more of a "team"....much like Purdue, Wildcats and Phoenix to a certain extent.....we do not rely on one person/select group nor is any one in the team indispensable....that is what I think makes teams click.....balance.....now have a look at the stats..
Satya 69.7 21 10.9 3.29
Shyam 90.4 20 18.35 4.06
Bhavneet 77.4 12 26.08 4.0
Javed 48.6 12 17.33 4.28
Shiv 33 5 10 13.7 4.15
Prasad 57.5 09 29.89 4.69
Bhavneet 13 12 3 3 0 473 52.56 81
Sadiq 13 13 0 1 0 333 25.62 51
Sharath 13 13 0 2 0 326 25.08 51
Satya 9 9 3 1 0 274 45.67 51
Javed 13 13 0 0 0 186 14.31 38
sharath
let's talk about l.a open
who should go
shahid - pak
irfan shohil - pak
baksi - pak
daxx - challenger
nilesh - challenger
bhavesh - challenger
mehul - united
bhavneet - mucc
anand - royal
ajit - wildcats ( captain ) or coach
imran - muslim
kamran - muslim
didn't bhavneet get called for throwing last year?
neanderthal_wlking,
1. have you ever seen a leg-spinner chucking?....according to their style of bowling they can never chuck/throw...unless it is an deliberate attempt of some sort....that is a basic diff between finger spinners and wrist spinners....
2. Bunty (bhavneet) has the smoothest action for a spinner in this league.
3. I am assuming you are getting confused between two people.
sharath
my bad...not bhavneet....i meant bhavesh but still he is a good batsman
how can u leave sohail alvi and adnan baig.....u do not have any genuine openers in ur squad...i don't think illa-tulla are going to do much in LA...and ofcourse Satha, if he is available
I don't know how the league pick the players 4 L.A. open every year i see lot of bench warmer go to l.a. like last year nasir,giri & asmar these player are not even a leading wicket taker or a best bowler in their team but league take these player for a field trip. About sohail alvi,tehsin,masroor,adnan baig & ajit plz don't send them again & again. These players r good but u have to send some good & talented youngster who can field & stop some runs in a 20/20 game. If they like they can be a manager,coach or a selector for the team. Who is this anand guy from royals i never heard about him first he have to prove himself in MWCC then we might talk about him.
Da, LA team.
Guess, I see you only got Div 1 players on your squad. Why no div 2 players??.
Jack will make my MWCC team on any type of tour.
This is the reason we were fighting so much for to get a Div 1 VS div 2 all star game. Out of this we can pick a core team and fill in the blanks a players fail to qualify for the tour/event.
Every tour will require different skills and tallent but since we get involved only with Da LA open we get to pick one team.
I went 2 years ago. got my ass whoopied in the first game bowling.. learned a lot from it so i bowled better in the next two games. fielding was miserable so it made the bowlers looked worse that what they realy were.
Here is what I think is needed to win 20/20.
1)Pick batsmen who are able to go at the first ball.. there is no time to settle in.
2)Pick as many good alrounders as possible cause you will have a vary bowling attack if some one gets wacked.
3)All players must be good(+) fielders. there is no room for sluggish fielding as these grounds are not far from international standards. Not to mention the shorten the boundries to only 60 yards for this event??
4)Part of three, if some one has a catching problem, you need to look at other options before you select him.
5)Bowlers should be selected based on ability to move/vary the ball cause fast and straight is the next flight home.
If i were the selector you must fit two or more of these characteristics before you are even given a tryout??
for all this you need preparations. apparently for some unknown reason, management always picks a team a week in advance, with no criteria whatsoever. First of all, why is management picking the team?
Also, i hear there is another team going from this region. does anyone know anything about it?
United Cricket Club through a private venture will be participating in 2007 L.A. Open Tournament.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club.
Adnan, who are you including in ur roster? Is this an attempt to try to snatch MWCC players for the tournament?
Why don't we send a team for the Regionals?
At least we'll have a chance to win in that one.
Regionals is a joke. There is an excuse from management every year. This yr its some BS about USACA, last yr we apparently lost the invitation in one million emails that the President gets. However, some of MWCC players are going to participate in the regionals i hear...
Adnan is it only United CC or will it be a team put together under the name United CC for the tournament.
No sir,
We are not approaching any one who gets into MWCCC top 15 list or has been or will be approached by the Management.
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Adnan is it only United CC or will it be a team put together under the name United CC for the tournament.
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The team banner is United Chicago. The formation of the team will not be only UCC.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
is ur trip fully funded like of MWCC? or u pay u play kinda stuff?
and how the hell you are going to know who is going to be in top 15. MWCC does not announce team till the week before.
Now this puts a wench and some hot suace into MWCC on their selection.
competition will bring the best out of anyone so lets see how MWCC responds to this.
Adnan,
1) is this fully funded as asked before.
2) will payers for United Chicago for the LA open get in trouble with MWCC?? (hate to dig this ants nest up.
3) Give us some criteria for selections to this team.
rup to second you, what about the players playing this weekend in the regionals? are they going to get in trouble with management. I am guessing Adnan, you are playing this weekend, since you initiated this regional participation even last year. I think you took a team along with Faisal Nafasat, Irfan (Chargers) etc to Minnesota. Who all are playing this weekend?
Adnan,
I think its really cool that you guys are doing this, gives more people the opportunity to play some competitive cricket.
I dont think the league will create any issue as long as you guys pick your team outside off MWCC's 15.
Adnan,
Have a good outing this time around too @ the regionals.......I am sure chicago's cricketing talent is going to get noticed this year.....
albiet a lot of delay let me thank you for considering me to the opening batting/wk slot last season...unfortunately I could not make it then owing to my employment constraints.....
but I have heard good things about the tournament and would like to sincerely appreciate every one involved for working together in bringing bout some attention towards the huge talent base of midwest cricket.
sharath
did not know there was a regionals this week end.
Where is it being played??.
Can we have the list of the palyers who made it?
I didnt know either...
How do you guys keep track of all these?
Do I have to check another website besides cricinfo and midwestcricket regularly now?
it is called INSIDE information. there is regionals and it is in Chicago at the Glendale Heights grounds.
and there is no official participation from MWCC.
United Cricket Club is also participating in Central East Region Tournament this long weekend and NO the team is not based only of UCC members. To respect the privacy of those who are affraid that management might take action against them, we will have all the post match results, details and roster posted on www.unitedcricket.org web site after the long weekend.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
hmm....so how is that you will not get banned and others will, since you are not giving out their names.
Here is the link that has info about regionals this weekend.
http://www.usaca.org/regions/ce/2007_CE_Regional_Championship.htm
Honest & inside info don't go hand in hand?? C'man..tell us more.
I guess a bunch of us are looking like idiots right now. I think this is the second time we are having reginals in chicago area and little info is passed out. a couple years agon at WP also??.
Too much F************* politics and that is why we in MWCC will never be able to showcase our talent.
I remember at the last meeting Faisal Baig was realy pushing this topic but not much was realy addressed on it.
SAD..SAD ..I say.
wow.. how come they pick player for regional but the best was not sselected..to me its all nepotism.. wow.. the more things change the more they remain the same
Last year ICC had the two top bowlers non selected.. Three batsmen in the top 10 once again non selected..
I think IIT had a player or two worth selections.. along with other teams.. THIS IS BS to the MAX
Rup you hit right on the money man...too much f****** shit going on..
It would have been nice if everything was out in the open..
I thought it was a free country..
oh wait a minute..we are still from the sub continent..
See why I wont spend any money on MWCC being indian I love diversity and they have guys other than indians that cant get a play...
Yes, the regionals are being conducted this weekend at Glendale Heights. There are teams from Minnesota, Michigan, etc. It would have been a great opportunity for our league to put together a good team and showcase our talent. I pushed hard for it, but was in the minority. I was told about USACA and its politics... but whatever it may be, I would have liked our players to get good exposure to players from other leagues.
i thought u were part of management jaggi. Was there some kind of voting done on wether we should participate or not? Also, what happened to the all star weekend tournament to be held this year. I thought management was going to keep one weekend off and organize an all star tournament.
To me management only care about making money... Great!!! may be they should take MWCC public so we can buy shares or short it all the way...
so who is representing UCC team?
it looks like management is like NATO = NO ACTION TALK ONLY
We need to come up with some sort of resolution on this mess between USACA and MWCC.. The new and rising players needs some sort of platform and MWCC is way to busy on their own BS with USACA and not promoting new talent..
Goal should be promote new talent. word on the street was Vipul from Royals was also working on putting a Team out this year for regionals.
i am sure adnan, faisal, mehul..is management going to ban all these guys?
Well ,,, I have had it.
Who was the smart one that suggested the "If I were"
We need to form a players association..now..it should not cost much to finance and if MWCC will not finance we will do it by a seperate membership for the players association.
I am tired of hearing what USACA is or is not doing.
I tell you what, USACA and the ones who want to run USACA will not make much of a difference until Congress looks into this..Good luck. It's the US dollar that killing Cricket.. Look at all the leagues and bodies and the all stink in one category.. Finance. The money comes in, dissapears and yet little is being done to improve Cricket!!!!!
So USA cricket is not going anywhere in the world in the near future. Why not let us enjoy what we have that's good for now in cricket. Is this asking too much???.
I could keep on venting, but i won't so I need to see the "If I were" for the betterment of cricket in MWCC. I say Screw USACA for now.
I will post my "If I Were"ater
Adnan,
Any thoughts on becoming the President next year? You seem to be gaining a lot of popularity, at least amongst the bloggers ;)
hehehe...u r kidding tango...he got 10 out of 40 votes...he has no chance....
how about a blogger vote......
I vote adnan for prez
if he and rest of UCC is not banned from next week...
anhonestquery,
There was no blog back then.
Well isnt election next year? Can we not vote them out? I think thats the way it works unless we are ruled by DICTATORS...
well adnan from united can you tell us who you trying to take l.a open for the team you are participating in l.a open. do you have any good players in your mind.can you atleast give us a head start. maybe some of good player want to go with you, so they can approch to you if they are interesting playing for your team. i can tell you this if mcc is not sending guys i mentioned above you can get thoes guys cause they are fast & furioues..
so is it going be a teacm of UCC memebers and their friends
I resigned this year.. I have a lot of personal commitments. I am not sure if there was any voting within management.
All Star: I have mentioned before that we should take a break during the season. I am not sure of the plans this year.
Lemmings, is a frequently-used metaphor in reference to people who go along unquestioningly with popular opinion, with potentially dangerous or fatal consequences. Rup, you hit it right on the head; Dirty Politics have no place in Cricket. The previous 2 AGMs, we asked questions about MWCCs participation and were woven into a web that spider-man himself would have a hard time getting out of. The last AGM, the first 2 hours were taken up by talking about 30-30…apparently they want to have their own set of rules apart from the rest of the league and the administrative body was quite willing to accommodate 2hrs. for this matter. When I brought up the issue of regional’s, it was tabled at the end of the meeting and we were given some labyrinthine story about USACA and dirty politics, thus, stifling any major talent from our league being exposed to the rest of the leagues. The last couple of years UCC has been pretty much locked out of anything they offer to the league, perhaps someone from the administration can shed some light on this…Mehul tried to set up something involving some players from Trini&Tobago and heard nothing back in response. Who remembers the Mohd. Azzharuddin’s charity match and how the league reacted to anyone participating in it. Rightfully, the players, on the fear of suspension, tucked their tales between their legs and hid. Imagine your childhood hero, comes to town and you can’t play with him? We approached players for the CER the previous year, because once again, no action was taken from MWCC. Only a few brave souls took part in that,( along with the charity game) on the risk of getting suspended.
Other then Rup, I have not heard any player by name at least, challenging management. It’s wonderful to have differing opinions within one league, I think, people should not be castigated just because they challenge the rule of law, right or wrong! UCC(which is different from United Cricket Conference), has always been seen as some sort of anti-culture nuisance… What’s wrong with offering different opinions? I am sure a lot of people don’t agree with us, but we are and constantly have taken heat from everyone. Please put the differences aside for the betterment of the game of cricket! Peace out!
All Star.. They gave a break.. July 14th week end.. La open Week end. Unless the schedule will change?
At the meeting plans were to host the Mini World cup on Labor Day holiday week end??.
folks,
neither am i taking sides nor am i being critical/judgemental of any body. but the first thing that comes to my mind is we as caribbeans/south asians have an excellent oppurtunity of playing quite a well regarded, dencently talented, quite competitve yet amatuer cricket away from our home lands here in the US.
Not to show case it or not to further it owing to reasons that are not cricketing is really unfortunate. I have had the good fortune to play with and aginst bowlers like my ex cap girish kamthe now in the michigan league, ruchir and chintan from purdue...rup and Jack from ICC, dhiraj and mehul from UCC, shahid and raheel from pak, satya and bunty from MUCC, asif from MCC...all of whom i rate as excellent bowlers.
In the batting dept there was Devin Patel from the yesteryear GCC, Satha from Capitol, Ashwin and Grisih from Purdue, Ajit from Wildcats, Irfan Shohail from Pak, Satya, Bunty from MUCC, Aditya from phenix, Mahesh from challengers all of whom I regard as sound batsmen (I have never played against the present day St. Louis team... so cant talk about them much...I guess they must be right up there with the others).
To top it all we have had Todd amongst us till recently as a active cricketing perosanlity. The point being, to have so much of talent around, not being able to harness and utilize it to showacse on a more broader stage either at LA or at the regionals owing to resaons that are off field non-cricketing matters, just empahises how much we are screwing up the first thing we are here to do...play competitive cricket.
I have read thru some of the earlier posts as well as the blogs from before and last year, although this is my first season contributing to the same.....I guess something needs to be done pronto....not only are we not promoting cricket, we are also hampering growth and recognition as a regional cricket board....some of the ideas posted are excellent....lets get down to working on them actively without playing the blame game.
sharath
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Adnan,
1) is this fully funded as asked before.
2) will payers for United Chicago for the LA open get in trouble with MWCC?? (hate to dig this ants nest up.
3) Give us some criteria for selections to this team.
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1. Players pay their own airfare. UCC picked up entry fees, transportation, lodging and food.
2. As stated this is a private venture and MWCC has nothing to do with it. Therefore no cause for alarm.
3. We have a L.A. Open committee that is reposnisble for player selection, confirmation and the logistics of this tour. Contrary to the popular belief I don't dictate how we do things in UCC.
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hmm....so how is that you will not get banned and others will, since you are not giving out their names.
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Because I am not affraid. Besides this is a USACA event, which MWCC is a part of. Therefore league exclusivity rule is null and void in this case.
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Any thoughts on becoming the President next year? You seem to be gaining a lot of popularity, at least amongst the bloggers ;)
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I will keep running for the president until someone decides to run against this corrupt organization. Getting 10 votes out of 40 is a significant accomplishment. That is almost 30% of the vote. Not too far from 51% needed to oust this administration.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket CLub
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well adnan from united can you tell us who you trying to take l.a open for the team you are participating in l.a open. do you have any good players in your mind.can you atleast give us a head start. maybe some of good player want to go with you, so they can approch to you if they are interesting playing for your team. i can tell you this if mcc is not sending guys i mentioned above you can get thoes guys cause they are fast & furioues..
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we have already been labled as 'enemies of MWCC' and try to pull good players for L.A. Open will probably call for my contract. We want MWCC to pick their team first for L.A. Open before we will approach the members.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Sorry to hear about your player Prasad, Bunty, Sadiq and the rest of MUCC. It is pretty sad and sudden. Please let us know if we can do anything to help ease the burden of the deceased's family.
Deepest Regrets,
Rogers Park CC
sharat, seems like you just going rounds and rounds with no point. just like sadiq.:)
1 & 2 is fair enough for me.
3??. L. A open selection commettee.
We need the criteria they will be using for this Team.. Just curious?.
This blog has lighted up?. MWCC should be concerned about the amount of disgust in it's players..
New Topic.
please tell me ICC is the only one who wants to give the New Ball we got this season away to charity?. These balls are either the worst piece of S*** management has put their hands on, or just being cheap at the same expense?. Or my appologies MWCC for ICC could have gotten the worst two boxes??.
They look like beautiful dark cherries but i think some one or many is covering some crap here.
By the way if any one of you think they are good and want to trade for last season balls ICC has 9 to trade. Give me 5 of last season balls and i will gladly give you 9 ripe dark cherries!!!.
Rup, I'm with you on the balls issue - these are really substandard balls and are ruined after 4 overs!
Rup, balls are hust getting worst. just like ours :)))). lacquer on this year balls is just chipping off.
Adnan said: "Getting 10 votes out of 40 is a significant accomplishment. That is almost 30% of the vote."
10 out of 40 is 25%. Rounded up, you get 30% :)
I like the optimistic attitude Adnan. I'll convince my team to vote for you.
Ok guys do I have some taker on this ball thing or I am going E-bay. may be i can sell them to some team in the third world countries??.
Adnan If UCC will wait till MCC selects this could ne a week before the tour.
Has anyone consulted MWCC as to UCC agenda so both parties can have ample time to put their squad together.
i think Adnan would listen to people even less if he get elected
"i think Adnan would listen to people even less if he get elected"
Then we can always vote him out of power. No harm in giving him a chance though. After all, things can't get any worse.
RUP said
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may be i can sell them to some team in the third world countries??.
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Dude, there is no third world. if there is one you are from one of them too. anyway CA balls from pakistan and they are known to make good balls with england and aussies.
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Adnan If UCC will wait till MCC selects this could ne a week before the tour.
Has anyone consulted MWCC as to UCC agenda so both parties can have ample time to put their squad together.
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Rup it is really difficult to talk to the Management as Faisal eluded earlier in the blog. We have been 'identified' therefore even good intentions sometimes come across as threatening.
If anyone is interested in representing United Chicago from MWCC, please contact Mehul Shani and let the management know that you will not be available for L.A. Open selection. But, why would you pay your own way when MWCC is taking you free of charge?
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Balls are a bunch of SHYTE...
Anand I will vote for you.. Its seems you have a good agenda
You are to slow for me Neanderthal. You realy replicate your name.
You see, I came from a third world country, Which we poor countries are called.
I now live in a more economically stable country thus known as the industralized nations.
My Point??? if these guys could sell these junk to us in the USA why i can't sell them to a Neanderthal living in a third world country??. Tell me why??
People here have a very low tolerance for stupidity.
My Point??? if these guys could sell these junk to us in the USA why i can't sell them to a Neanderthal living in a third world country??. Tell me why??
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thats because u got no brain. maybe too much smoke. anyway
let me break it down for you.
if CA balls made in pakistan, how do you going to sell them back to someone in that part of world at a cheaper rate? its common sense to tell the least.
no one other than so called developed counties (and their media) use "third world countries".
well first learn the economics 101 then i will get to "stable economies".
neanderthan maybe slow but won't repeat everything and everyone like a chimp though.
-------SUCKER PUCH :)))))------
May be we can pay Neanderthal's fare to go to England and Australia.
Have him watch a game where he gave the English and Aussies one of these balls to play with. After the 4 th over i will like to see the look on Neanderthal's face as the bowler/team is walking toward him..Just imagine what the verbage will be??
neanderthal walking,
as mentioned in one the later paragaraphs of my earlier post, that read "the point being"....we have too much talent as specified via the examples on the brief list that come to my mind when I wrote that....to see it go waste, when we can do something tht is genuinely useful is unfortunate....these guys put together and coached appropriately will def make one heck of a team on the regional and national scene......we are letting that heppen for things that are not related to cricket.....and then we are playing balme game...when we could use that time to do something constructive....hope this sort of answers your query?
sharath
"if CA balls made in pakistan, how do you going to sell them back to someone in that part of world at a cheaper rate? its common sense to tell the least."
You just go slower Neanderthal??
surprise you menttioned Econ 101. did you see the word profit in this course??.
Here is an explanation.
I sell it cheaper to the poor and they will turn and sell to you for the price the sell it to the league= Profit?.
If you have never came across the word third world take Geography 0001, History. 00001 and Business 000001. After these counses you will understand why the US $$ is 33 rupees to 1, and where I came from it's 200 to 1 US$.
Wow.. it's heating up now.
rup... Why are you so hard on the guy cant you see he is a special kid? I think half his brain he is sittiig on it
man RUP u r so dumb. i dont know where to start. i think u must be smoking some weird S***.
I was checking the MCC website for scores. I noticed that the Batsman scores are now in bold letters. Good to see atleast some change in the age old website.
This makes me remember that during one AGM held in April 2006 last year, Tariq was mentioning that they had developed a totally new website for MWCC. He was even willing to show us the demo of it in that meeting. But we never heard after that about the website.
When it comes to frustration with the management team for so many issues. the blame really belongs with us mostly. Not all of us, because some are trying to make a change because they are unhappy. But enough of us that there hasn't been a change as yet!
We are the ones who vote for this management team. If you are so unhappy about it, then do something about it. One doesn't have to get negative and personal to participate in an election. I hear people complain and stuff, but then this management team has been in office for a number of years - 10??? So who is to blame - them for doing what everyone knows they will do, or us for continiuing to vote them to power if we are so unhappy with them. At election time, guess who gets the votes? It is our responsibility to get your team vote given to the proper candidate.
The management doesn't need to be the only ones that run and organize everything. They need help in organizing and researching some activities. If we are so concerned, why don't we take some initiatives and help out? Obviously management is required to coordinate activities, but if everything is left to just them, then don't expect too much. They don't have the manpower, and they aren't getting paid for it!!
Also, the MWCC is not a professional league and we don't have contracts. So, the management isn't some all powerful body that we need to be afraid of. It seems like everyone fears management retribution. Why? What hold do they have on us? We have management to coordinate and manage activities, and provide guidance when needed. But that's where it ends. They should not and cannot curb us, specially when all we want is the betterment and expansion of our league. So, if you don't like the "exclusivity rule", then make a motion to get rid of it, and get it passed. Do something about it.
I'm not trying to bash on the management. Maybe they are doing a good job. Maybe they are not. Either way, they aren't new to us that we can claim we didn't know how they'd run things. We know. They are a known and proven commodity. And they have limited resources (man-power).
Please do something when you have the chance. Whether that is to help the current management out, or to replace them.
guys lets talk abt something else.....I might try to stop by Glendale heights to watch the games this weekend, before heading off to purdue...... any one else planning on stopping by and may be having a beer or two...?
also aditya, I noticed that DC is not on your roster for the first two games, is he still around or is he just caught up with work or something...
sharath
Why are we all complaining about this and that when all we wanna do is play cricket.
This is as Aditya said not a professional league
We had elections less than a year ago and 30 teams voted for the current management so all the ones complainig should take their personnal agendas elsewhere, may be the glendale heights league
As for Rup i know a lot of people rspect u coz of ur crickting abilities and man u seem to losing a lot of it by baseless arguing with people who im sure just wanna spite u.
Rup u better than them dont stoop so low
Sharat,
DC is playing with us. He was unable to play the first 2 games, but played the game against Pak Gym. Unfortunately, that was rained out, so you didn't see him on the roster.
Aditya
Please excuse the spelling. I meant Sharath.
Rup man, I'm sorry dude!
I just got paranoid watching all that gieco commercials...
Didnt mean to take a hit at you..
peace out all!
abhi said - "I don't know how the league pick the players 4 L.A. open every year i see lot of bench warmer go to l.a. like last year nasir,giri & asmar these player are not even a leading wicket taker or a best bowler in their team but league take these player for a field trip."
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Abhi - Just to clarify, MWCC held trials for the LA CUP two years ago. I was selected on the basis of those trials and did reasonably well in at least one of the games. I'm not being defensive, just informative.
--Asmar
I am sick of players saying we need help but no on from management is going to publish on the MCC page, what we need help for.
Well,, I am an accountant by proffession who happens to play cricket. If MWCC needs help in accounting let me know and i will try to help. I do help out umpiring sometimes .
I guess when promisses are made and not fullfilled you will see anger and frustration. any married guy can tell you that?.
Asmar, I am happy for you that you got selected after your showing in the trials. For every success story, there are quite a few failed ones. A fellow cricketer was invited, played very well at the trials and after that never heard back. He didnt know if he was selected/rejected. I think the team was announced(if it was) very late and I do know that it didnt go well with him.
Well said Rup. You are clearly wiser that me as a married man!!
GUYS GUYS GUYS,
I sense a great deal of frustration in this blog against the current MCC Management / Regime. Leagues actions makes me think of them as good ole boys club, who thinks that they can get away with anything.
I think you guys every year complain complain and complain but that is as far as many of you go. Complaining has not worked for you all so far so I am not sure how you all will impact change.
DON'T FORGET? We all pay pretty decent money $$$$$ to play in this league. Since we do not play in MCC for FREE so I urge you all to think of yourself as paying customers of MCC. We all should be able to demand better service, facility etc.
HISTORY TELLS US? Change requires sacrifice.
DEMAND CHANGE BY?
** Demand a face to face meeting with the league where its about you and your pain point. Make them listen to you and hold them accountable. Work with league management to help improve this league. No more under the table deals, friendship based tournament team selection, or continuos spinnig of fact by the the King of Spin Mr Spiderman (Tariq.
**Committing to sit your teams out for a year if this Management does not change its DICTATORSHIP STYLE and starts listening to its customers. I bet any money if 20 teams sat out a season this will hit the league in the pocket books really hard.
IF ALL OF THE ABOVE DOES NOT WORK THEN - Overthrow the current Management / Regime by making sure you all VOTE as a team against them in the next election.
CAMPAIGN FOR OFFICE? Those that want to run for office should come together and create / share with everyone in the league on why and how can you run this league better. (Talk is cheap so these people want to see vision and a a concrete plan that makes budgetary sense)
Good Luck
Wanting change or constructive criticism is alright, but hitting below the belt is not required. I'll still support Adnan for President next year, I just hope that he runs a positive campaign.
Adnan.. what happens to your LA bound team if Tariq picks you, Mehul and Faisal for LA Open.
I am curious to know how many of you have the authority(within your team) to vote? There is a gap between mgmt and team, but there is also a gap between team captain(mgmt) and team members.
Vettipasangals said...
Adnan.. what happens to your LA bound team if Tariq picks you, Mehul and Faisal for LA Open.
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now that is a knock out. lets see what adnan got to say
I don't understand why people get annoyed because Adnan decides to send a team to LA.
He's giving more players a chance to play against star cricketers from around the world.
And its not as if he's stealing away cricketers from the MWCC. Not to mention, he's paying the entry fees out of his own pocket. Instead of giving him credit, we're putting up idiotic, hypothetical scenarios to bash him.
Grow up people!
Dude Tango.. I posed a question to Adnan and not you. Second, this was not intended to put Adnan down. I applaud his efforts, but, I think its a legitimate question... so let the man answer.
To vettipasangals,
"Dude Tango.. I posed a question to Adnan and not you."
I wasn't answering your question!
"Second, this was not intended to put Adnan down. I applaud his efforts,"
Oh yes, and we all have telepathic powers, so we completely understand whats going on in your head. No need to mention such things, right? :) <--sarcastic smiley
"I think its a legitimate question... so let the man answer"
Correct, after all, there are no stupid question....just stupid people! (Famous quote by Mr. Garrison)
Ok, so you think I have telepathic powers to realize whom you were answering?Why cant you mention whom you were answering.
Stupid or not, I was asking Adnan... so still dont quite understand why you have to butt in.
hehehe...select adnan and faisal for LA team. That is impossible.
I think like Adnan said if you want to get selected for his team let management know that you are not available for the MWCC official team. On the other hand who would want to pay for the trip when you get a free ride for the LA open thru MWCC.
here is another cracker......
what if MWCC pick mehul not adnan for LA open?
if i were in MGMT i would have done that
"Ok, so you think I have telepathic powers to realize whom you were answering?Why cant you mention whom you were answering."
I wasn't answering any question God dammit. Read my post again.
"Stupid or not, I was asking Adnan... so still dont quite understand why you have to butt in."
Whose butting in? Please carry on with the stupidity!
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