a wafer-thin margin in their first game in the LA Open.
MWCC batted first, and scored 143 in their 20 overs. The
top rungetters were Amit and Madhu with 43 and 30 respectively.
Both Sohail and Satha hit a couple fours early each before
being dismissed.
In reply Ventura XI got home thanks to their WI-international
Leon Garrick, who carried them to victory with 4 wickets and
3 balls to spare. MWCC apparently felt they had Garrick out
early (caught-and-bowled by Amit), but much to their chagrin
it was ruled a bump-ball. Asif apparentely bowled beautifully,
conceding only 1 boundary in his 4 overs and picking up a
wicket as well. A couple more chances were given to Garrick
(it was supposedly fielding that was one of the biggest reasons
for MWCC's loss), and it finally came down to 18 needed off
the last 2 overs. It was eventually about 11 needed in 7
balls, when Nasir (bowling the penultimate over) beat
everyone, batsman and keeper, off the last ball of his over
that went for 4 byes! It was thus down to 7 off the last over,
and Ventura XI made it with 3 balls to spare.
More updates (from anyone who gets them) and updates to follow
in the discussion-section of this thread.
Written by Sadiq Yusuf
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chicago united all out 53 runs batting first against, punjab aka west indies blues
Ouch!!!!! This has got to hurt.
I guess the first game took both mental & physical toll on these guys.
Lets hope our MWCC team fear better in their second match.
That was suppose to happen to United.As they only talk........
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Rup said...
Ouch!!!!! This has got to hurt.
I guess the first game took both mental & physical toll on these guys.
Lets hope our MWCC team fear better in their second match.
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Yes, the schedule was pretty brutal for United - Fooglies in the morning (which was very close, only 11 runs according to the Fooglies website), and then maybe the best team in the competition with a 15-minute break! A lot of teams at least seem to have games at 9am, and then at 3:15pm, so they get a 3-hour window (MWCC has that today, luckily)... but playing quite literally back-to-back must be murder. And it probably doesnt help when, after a heart-breaking 10-run loss in what you know was probably your most winnable game, you get to rest 15 minutes and then go in to bat against an attack of Mervyn Dillon, Franklyn Rose, Reon King and Adam Sanford!
MWCC will play Punjab Blues also, but they play them tomorrow morning. This afternoons game for MWCC is an easier one IMHO (not *easy*, but easier).. they play the Aussie side, which seems packed with near-40-year-old former fc players, and 3-4 20-year-olds who havent played fc cricket yet. They may have a shot at beating them, hopefully (and when they take on Punjab Blues tomorrow morning, maybe Punjab Blues wont be going allout anymore, having already made the playoffs today - last year Punjab Blues rested Curtly Ambrose etc on the 2nd morning, wanting to have them fresh for the afternoon quarterfinals).
Both sides were sort of depleted today - Shahid pulled out of the MWCC side pretty late in the day, and apparently Wasim Khan (expected to be United's best bat going in) didnt make it to LA either. Especially given those circumstances, very good show by both our teams in their first games - a last-over loss for MWCC, and a 10-run loss for United. A little more luck and theyd have been in the driver's seat for the quarters!
c8w
Bad news from the Western Front - both our teams went down to (somewhat expected) losses in the afternoon as well.
Havent heard much details about United, other than what was mentioned in the blog above (a very low score against the overwhelmingly strong Punjab Blues outfit).
MWCC played the Aussie side... and bowled first. And bowled the Aussies out for 118! Everyone apparently bowled very well - Raheel got a couple wickets, and Asif was great again also taking 2 I believe. Hassan from Pak Gym played this game (after not playing the first one)... and he bowled spin, and apparently bowled excellently well too, also claiming 2 wickets! As usual spin is very effective in LA, but even so, Hassan doesnt get to bowl a regular 9-overs for Pak Gym, and he was great, with the Aussies apparently struggling against him!
However, the Aussie bowling was apparently just too strong - too good, too tight, too disciplined, just not allowing any runs. It was apparently of the sort of quality that you could try hitting, going for shots... and you might get lucky with one boundary, but youd pretty much be bowled if you tried it a second time. MWCC played most of the innings, but were bowled out for just about 100 by the end. (This may not have been such a terrible effort either - Ventura, the team that beat MWCC in the morning, played the Aussies in the afternoon and were allout for about 70).
Both our teams play again tomorrow morning, and have two very difficult games again (as they now reverse opponents). MWCC will play the Punjab Blues (without Asif, who was due to fly to Pakistan late tonight), and United plays the Aussies.
c8w
Garrick was also plumb lbw in the 6th over hit low in front of off-middle and the umpire shook his head and said he was hit outside the line of off ! The umpires (who were very chatty with the Ventira XI were just not giving him out, the Amit ct and bowled was as straight forward as you get). We should've fielded better in that game though.
Aussies were just way too accurate. Anthony Stuart and pals were outswinging from a good length at decent pace and some bounce .... it was hard to get a single let alone hit boundries. But we pushed both teams and with a lottle luck could've been 2-0 instead of 0-2 ;).
Tomorrow we face the all international attack of West Indies Blues.
Signing off (and very tired!)
Thanks for the updates, sadiq and raheel.
Good job so far guys.
Chin up and go get'em today.
So fianlly MWCC Team is doing very good, restricted scoring. It is a hard Luck that WE didn't won close matches. GOOD LUCK FOR TODAY'S GAME
Is it right time to do Postmortom, Dr. Romeen?
Mr. Tango, are you there for any comment?
If Shaheed didn't go than why not MWCC pick up darshan?
Bond said...
Mr. Tango, are you there for any comment?
We all knew they were going to lose, at least they put up a good fight. Maybe our real All Star team could have won one, if not two games there.
Tango My Buddy
That's reason, We needed to start fire, so next year Mr. Dectator thinks in right direction.
The two LA open teams got an opportunity to play at a different level. Most of us did not expect the teams to do well. But hey, we have our stars and they participated. Atleast some of them have the skills to take on teams at a competitive level. We got to commend them for it.
The results don't have anything to do with the management. You can send the best team from MWCC and the results, more or less, will be the same.
I do not agree with you SD, think about Shahid, Darshan, Ajit and any unlucky that had not to participate
If they were there, than might be result could have been different than what we are seeing.
No offence to those players who participated at the LA Open. We sent a star team, but not enough to win at this level. As I said before, we are a middle-aged league playing for fun. We have good cricketers surrounding which teams are built. But that doesn't mean we will do well at the LA Open.
Actually we are competitive enough, but most of never takes serious, most of the teams are saying that they paly for fun, but when they come to ground, their atitude is towards winning.
The results don't have anything to do with the management.
WTF? But isn't management responsible for sending the best team? Thats like saying the Indian selectors have nothing to do the performance of the team, even if they don't pick players who should have clearly made it to the team.
You can send the best team from MWCC and the results, more or less, will be the same
Yes, but if the idea of sending a team is to 'not win', then why bother sending a team? Tariq doesn't spend money out of his own pocket, he uses our money. The least he can do is reward deserving players.
We sent a star team, but not enough to win at this level.
Please. This weekend we sure as hell could have won at least one or two games. Once again, our guys fought well, but that doesn't mean we pardon management for not sending deserving players there.
As I said before, we are a middle-aged league playing for fun.
Speak for yourself. We might not be getting paid for playing cricket, but its not just for fun, we also play to win. Losing a match in the playoffs for me is just as heartbreaking as Michael Jordan losing a playoff game.
We have good cricketers surrounding which teams are built. But that doesn't mean we will do well at the LA Open.
Our guys clearly proved that they can compete with the some of best players in the world.
Adnan, Mehul,
I didn't see the names of Kamran and Imran on the scorecards. Were their scores recorded under different names?
Tariq doesn't spend money out of his own pocket, he uses our money. The least he can do is reward deserving players.
He is crying baby. MWCC doesn't have ant funds, so this year there is no banquet. WTF
He has money to spend his personal team of the expense of rest of the league, guys think about this, wake up all team captains, all players, push your captians, we all have the rights to ask about this.
if you are good friend of TA, feed him some Booze anad you are selected, very nice management, What type of management is this, on the Opening night of night tournament, none of the were there, guys these small things count, we didn't interfere in so many things, so now he is doing what ever he feels good.
Latest Update from LA Mwcc lost both matches first they played aussies, Aussies scored only about 120 however midwest batsmen CAPTAIN SOHAIL ALVI didnt score much at all in appox 14 over of batting he managed about 30 odd runs and took the run rate from 6 an over to 10 plus. Second game they played punjab blues they gave up about 217 plus and only managed to make 21 runs all OUT!!!!
Chicago united beat aussies and KAMRAN SYED scored a brialliant knock of 45 plus not out in a great win for chicago united and its fans!!!
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Tango said...
Adnan, Mehul,
I didn't see the names of Kamran and Imran on the scorecards. Were their scores recorded under different names?
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I think there were a few mistakes in the cards. For eg,the S.Munir listed in one of the games is actually S.Alvi - Shahid didnt go to LA.
Similarly, Imran Jan never made it to LA for United IIRc - I think that Imran Syed was thus listed as Imran jan in the scorecards. (Imran had a pretty rough day on D1 of the tournament unfortunately). Kamran went to LA too, but he was a late addition, its very possible he didnt get to play on D1 (with the late additions United's squad was probably way too big to accomodate everyone).
c8w
Sadiq has guessed it right. Imran played in first two games and Kamran played in the third game.
We were very determined against Australians. We saw them against midwest and did not find them unbeatable. Their strength was bowling and i was sure we were going to bowl first. I started with myself and Samarth and we kept them under 6 in first 4 overs. The best bowler in that game was Altaf Khadri. Dayuummmm that dude bowled awesome. 14 runs included a six. So he gave only 8 runs in 23 balls with only 4 fielders inside the circle. Very good variation and very good control. I felt very bad for not giving Ruchir a go again. I know how it must have felt to not be able to bowl at this platform. He had one bad over in the first game. But most importantly he was incosistent, and i was afraid that the game might get out of our hands if they made anything around 140. Sorry Ruch, I am sure you will do better again.
I went in with my hunch and decided to send Ruch (inform) with Faiz. Faiz hit a nice pull shot only to be caught brilliantly at deep fine leg. Shazi played couple of good shots and looked like he was on a mission. Ruch played a nice pull shot for 3 and then rotated strike consistently. Shazi took on Collin and got caught at long on. Ruch also fell for 10. We were 30/3 in 7 overs. Then came partnership that won us the game. Kami played gem of an innings. Honestly, i was setting the batting order and wanted to split Mandeep and Aaron, and completely forgot Ashar and sent in Kami. Hey, I would love to make such an error everytime. With 28 to win off last 5 overs, Mandeep fell and then couple of more wickets and game got tight. Ashar hit couple of fours and got out with 7 to make off 10 balls. I joined Kami and stole a bye and then got couple of singles. With 4 need of the last over, I got a half-volley which i nailed straight over the bowlers head. Cool feeling. We did our job and now it was all about numbers. Infact, we were told that we were in and playing Trinidad. We got excited and i had the task of selecting the team. Should i sit one guy from the winning combination or keep the same team. Anyway, we got our stuff to the ground and then were told that they made some errors. I was called to an RV (apparently kept in the parking lot for the star boys, dayuuummm this things are cool). They showed me all the numbers and we missed the darn quarter's spot by .04 NRR. Some say its a set up to get CA teams in quarters. I blame ourselves. We are definately better team then 50 runs against Punjab blues. We did not apply ourselves and were trying to prove something. Clear indication to everybody was to just play 20 overs and get 100 runs, but i guess instructions are one thing and to follow them are other. The highlight of that game was Faisal's drive over extra cover off of M Dhillon. (I heard Sohail let go a killer pull shot off of A Sanford). Cool memories...With only 50 runs to defend, we started pretty well in first 2 overs and then gave away 35 runs in next 2 overs. Thinking back if we had held them back even for 2 more balls, we would have made it to quarters.
In defence of Imran, I probably should have sent him lower order. Again, error of judgement on my part which will leave a big question mark about his abilities. I hope he gets another chance next year.
All in all its a great experience.
I think we should invest in having 2 star boys play for us. I mean not only will we learn from them, we have a better chance of getting to semis. Get your best available 11 and 2 star boys. Rotate 2 players from 11 and i think we have a chance. Thinking back, if we would have won against fooglies we would be playing them australians again in quarters.
Guys,
We do this every year .. we cry, bitch and moan about MCC Management, Misuse of Funds, Lack of Facility and Playing Condition Improvement etc. This all is beginning to sound like a broken record.
I say if there is anyone that can put together a good team of people together that can represent all MCC's Paying Members then please STAND UP and announce your intention to run for Presidency and taking over the MCC Management.
Note: You will be surprised how many people are fed up with this regime and will support you fully.
JAGGI .... Save Us - Save Cricket.
well said incognito
Tango, I certainly speak for myself and that's my opinion.
We all play to win, including our LA Open team. Those who participated, did their best and we have to congratulate them. There ends the matter.
If we desire for a change in the management, then it should be for reasons that affect all the teams in our league. Not for quixotic reasons such as LA Open.
What expenses were incurred for participating in the LA Open?
* How much
Whoa!
Chicago United beat the Aussies? WOW!
Excellent job Mehul and company. I never expected you guys to beat them.
Looks as though our MWCC team got beat pretty bad in their last game. But anyway, they did put up a good fight throughout the tournament.
Now, before someone else brings it up and gives me a hard time, I must say that I owe Mr. Amit Kumar an apology. He was probably one of the best performers from our side in this tournament. Well done sir, and please forgive me for my ignorance. Especially after my boy Imran Syed scored exactly X runs less than your total score......of X
YES Sadiq, I know your smiling right now...but fine, I admit: You were right, I was wrong. But if I were to do it all over again, I'll still pick Imran over Amit.....this time I'll drop Sohail, not Amit ;)
I was just wondering...had Ajit, Shahid, Wade and the rest of the guys played, we might have made it to the knockouts. Damn! That would have been so cool.
If we desire for a change in the management, then it should be for reasons that affect all the teams in our league. Not for quixotic reasons such as LA Open.
There are several hundred reasons why we need a change in management, LA Open is just one of them.
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Tango said...
Whoa!
Chicago United beat the Aussies? WOW!
Excellent job Mehul and company. I never expected you guys to beat them.
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Echo the congratulations - wonderful job! I *did* actually think they had a shot at the Aussies, especially after hearing about the first match against MWCC, with the Aussies only making 118 and struggling a bit against spin. United had many spinners, and I thought theyd have a shot (still wouldnt have put money on them or anything, being concerned about their batting after the previous afternoon, but did think they had a shot :-)
As it was, outstanding effort in the end. Mehul himself had 3/17 in 4 overs, which is brilliant stuff. Samarth went for only 6/over despite opening the bowling with field-restrictions etc, and Altaf sounds like he was terrific too. Great job overall, they deserved to make the quarters IMHO (and would have put up a better fight than the team that eventually did too - *those* guys lost in 11 overs!)
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Tango said:
Now, before someone else brings it up and gives me a hard time, I must say that I owe Mr. Amit Kumar an apology. He was probably one of the best performers from our side in this tournament. Well done sir, and please forgive me for my ignorance. Especially after my boy Imran Syed scored exactly X runs less than your total score......of X.YES Sadiq, I know your smiling right now...
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Hard to be smiling after the last game for our boys - ouch. The scorecards, BTW, are screwed up for a lot of games in the tournament this year.. but even so, how come only 9-down for MWCC? Even with Asif leaving they still had more than 10 people there after all. Did the scorers just miss one? (The scorers seem to have been awful this year in general, some games have only 16-17 overs in bowling figures accounted for etc).
Very good effort from Amit, though, in his first LA trip. He probably ended up our highest rungetter for the tournament I think? And despite not being a six-hitter scored well over a run-a-ball throughout as well. I think every team even in 20/20 needs 2 or 3 players like that, to pair with the big-hitters around them.
The big thing again in this tournament for us, IMHO, was our lack of spinners - I think the selectors just couldnt find any other quality spinners they wanted to take (and a couple asked had other commitments). Spin *really* works in LA apparently - the United team performance in the last game is but one example. Look at MWCC's one specialist spinner Asif for example.. he had 4-0-14-1 against Ventura, and 4-0-18-1 against the Aussies. Thats a total of 8 overs, 2/32.. 4 runs per over! Outstanding effort in a 20/20 game. But he was the only specialist spinner we had - we ended up using Amit and Afroze for almost their full quota in every game, and both of them are surely very much batting-allrounders even at our league-level. I hear Hassan bowled legspin against the Aussies and was outstanding as well (even if the scorecard doesnt show it). Next year we should just take a couple more specialist spinners maybe, even if they arent conventional or at Asif-level, theyd probably still do decently well.
I really wish we could send a truly full-strength squad out once - to LA, to regionals, to nationals, whatever. I mean a squad where Mehul/Samarth/Imran are in the MWCC squad, where Shahid/Ajit/Bhavneet/Satish are actually available to play, where Asif doesnt have to leave after one day etc. I think that would be a team that would compete with any team that wasnt totally loaded with international stars (like AM International, Punjab Blues etc).
c8w
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mehulshani said...
They showed me all the numbers and we missed the darn quarter's spot by .04 NRR. Some say its a set up to get CA teams in
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First of all Mehul, congrats on a heck of a tournament - truly a win to cherish on the second day.
You guys deserved to be in the quarters IMHO.
As for the above.. the tournament is definitely skewed towards the home sides IMHO (and not just because they have the advantage of playing on that surface every day of the year, as opposed to our once a year - a surface thats *totally* different from ours too. If those guys came here, theyd struggle mightily IMHO).
Take a look at United's schedule, for example. They have to play 9am, then get Punjab Blues at 12:15... with a 10-minute break! And then only play the next afternoon. Southern-California-Presidents-XI, however, plays 9am, then 3pm, then 9am, then 3pm, the only team to get proper breaks throughout the two days.
Almost every team has a tough schedule - you play 1 "league" team, and 2 "international" teams. MWCC played Ventura (league team), then Aussies and Punjab Blues. United played Fooglies (league team), then Punjab Blues and Aussies.
But SCCA? They play Combined XI (league team, from the same league as them!), AM International (international team), then San Francisco, another league team! (And they still bloody lost 2 out of 3 :-) Of course, since they played league teams instead of international teams and so had "better" losses, their run-rate ended up better than United's and so they made the quarters despite losing 2 out of 3! Ventura (from LA also) played MWCC, then Aussies (international), then Fooglies (league team). Ventura also lost 2 out of 3 despite playing only 1 "international" side, but because of the weak schedule had a run-rate good enough to sneak into the playoffs. The only guys who get 2 "non-international" games are the local California teams. Thats a major-league skewing of the schedule IMHO.
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mehulshani said:
quarters. I blame ourselves. We are definately better team then 50 runs against Punjab blues. We did not apply ourselves and were trying to prove something. Clear indication to everybody was to just play 20 overs and get 100 runs, but i guess instructions are one thing and to follow them are other.
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BTW, Punjab Blues lost in the semis, to AM International! AM International batted first and scored... 101/7 in 20 overs! And Punjab Blues were allout for 93 and lost by 8 runs! (So my early pick to win the title are still alive... when I saw the final roster I was even more encouraged about my early-pick's chances, their prospects having improved immeasurably since Azhar was not around to screw things up with his captaincy ;-)
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mehulshani said:
All in all its a great experience.
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It really sounds like it was. And the cherry on the cake, of course, is a win as fun the Aussie game sounds it was - thats something anyone who played will probably remember all their lives as a cricketing highlight. (Special congrats to Kami - a Miandad-esque effort, to stay right to the end for 40+ and see the side home).
c8w
Wow,
so many people want to bust mgt balls now.
I guess i can sit back and watch ya all try.
Man I am going to enjoy this after all the shots you all took at me.
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so now L.a.open is over, so what we learn from our mistake we should allow the mangement to keep picking up the team or there should be a 4 or 5 selectors from both div will pick the team.To all the bloggers can u give me the core of the team and give me some holes in the teams give me some names of players with the age in mind or what should we do to be sucessful in l.a.
shiraz r u guys pay the umpires for the night games if not why?
Morning Fellas !!
I'm still in sunny california....trying to find a reason not to fly back home this afternoon... :-)
First of all, let me congratulate both our Chicago sides for an awesome display and performance...
Pat yourselves on the back fellas, because you guys played your hearts out..
Special congrats and kudos to Mehul and his merry XI for pulling out a fantastic upset over the Aussies...too good to be true...
That alone is a great achievement..and y'all should be proud of it..
I think this was one of my best vacations...was worth every penny spent...
I'll recommend everybody to consider making a trip to the next LA Open, as its a treat - a fantastic atmosphere with some quality cricket....it can't get better than this..!
We had our own Blog/ team get togethers and parties.......sorry lot of y'all missed out..
Romeen, I told you to make it......:-)
I think it will be extremely hard (probably impossible) to take even our full strength team to LA Open and win against the monsters like Franklin Rose, Merwyn Dillon, Adam Stanford etc.
You have to understand that you are looking at 85-90 miles an hour ball screaming straight for your face/ ribs....and how much practice does any of us have against that..
My point is regardless of what team we take over there, it will be very hard to go past the quarter finals. United Chicago showed us that we can get into the quarters, but beyond that is gonna take a few First class players or international stars.
I'm sure most of the players will back me on this....
Good day fellas..
Rup said...
Ouch!!!!! This has got to hurt.
I guess the first game took both mental & physical toll on these guys.
Lets hope our MWCC team fear better in their second match.
4:28 PM
Sant sab ki leta said...
That was suppose to happen to United.As they only talk........
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Rup and Sant Sab stop hatin'
it's not good for the league altogether. both teams did very well let's not take it out on the players but focus our anger on management!!!!
"I think we should invest in having 2 star boys play for us. I mean not only will we learn from them, we have a better chance of getting to semis. Get your best available 11 and 2 star boys. Rotate 2 players from 11 and i think we have a chance. Thinking back, if we would have won against fooglies we would be playing them australians again in quarters. "
shekhs,
whats wrong with this suggestion?
CMC, Stop your crawling.
What did i say that's wrong or hatin'.
Man you need to start walking before some one stomp on your crawling ass.
rup
i just think you are getting too hateful, i did not attack you in any kind of way.
yet you wanna hurl insults... why?
it just sounded like you took some glee in posting that fact!
support is all i was saying mon!
relax!
Mehul,
Thats a very good suggestion Mehul, but I think we might need a more than 2, maybe 4-5 star boys.
We saw the finals yesterday and the TNT kids made AM international look like amatuers.
Our First class cricketers like Marathe and Ojha coud not really score against the spin/ medium pace of Kevin Pollard and his pals.
So maybe around 4-5 star boys and then get the rest of our best, could possibly get us in the semis .......winning it all is a different story.. :-)
"Guys,
We do this every year .. we cry, bitch and moan about MCC Management, Misuse of Funds, Lack of Facility and Playing Condition Improvement etc. This all is beginning to sound like a broken record.
I say if there is anyone that can put together a good team of people together that can represent all MCC's Paying Members then please STAND UP and announce your intention to run for Presidency and taking over the MCC Management.
Note: You will be surprised how many people are fed up with this regime and will support you fully.
JAGGI .... Save Us - Save Cricket. "
POSTED BY: INCOGNITO
Kinda sums up the state of affairs nicely doesn't it?
Congrats on the win though. Don't know if it's a better idea to hire star boys for a day or play in more tournaments more often with more of our own team.
Heck, we've got so many members, we should organize one in Chicago. Maybe get revenue & publicity ...
Whoever is running for president next time ...
Rup, Adnan et all
Rup said...
Ouch!!!!! This has got to hurt.
I guess the first game took both mental & physical toll on these guys.
Lets hope our MWCC team fear better in their second match.
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This is what I posted and you said I am hatin'.
As soon as i post you all either call it mgt bashing, hating, or self promoting.
A lot of you change your names just to take cheap shots at guys like me.
Look I come on this blog with valid concerns and this is the only place it can be heard for now.
All of you all under your hide and seek name ain't got the balls now to bash management nor will you get it in the future under your real name.
I am done with this blog. Good luck to you all on your goals to bring betterment to cricket in MWCC.
Shekhs,
Hey getting into semis and maybe to finals is good enough and will cover the cost of the two star boys. Also, if we know that we are not going to win, then why not give everybody a chance to perform on that platform.
Mehul
Mehul,
Its definitely an achievement getting into the quarters, let alone the semis...and you guys just missed the ride..(btw, did you make sure the math was right?)
Getting into the semis will put us with the elite and also some $$$$...this time the teams that got into semis got 3000..
That might even cover the cost of the star boys..
But I agree, we should definitely give chance to some of our own...but maybe to the young guys...give em a chance, expose them...
Just my opinion...
Tango, I disagree with you. LA Open is irrelevant in our choice for the management.
Shekhs, I hate you :)
No, you are right, I wish I could have been there.
Congratulations to both our teams on playing their hearts out.
SimonDispatch said...
Tango, I disagree with you. LA Open is irrelevant in our choice for the management.
The blatant favoritism shown for some completely undeserving players is RELEVANT TO ME.
Skekhs,
So Trinidad and Tobago beat AM Internationals?
the other cool thing was kookabura balls....dayuuummmnnn those things were nice.
SimonDispatch said...
Tango, I disagree with you. LA Open is irrelevant in our choice for the management.
1:42 PM
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SD,
couldnt disagree with you more. more we act like we dont care, more the management going to act like we dont give a f***.
look at how they picked up the team for LA open. is there a logic? hasan shah ended up there. in which criteria you can justify selecting him to go there?
other thing is, it is never against the players who got slected but agaist the selections. Amit did well but that doesnt change the fact that there were more deserving people.
i think it is getting out of hand with this management and we should all seriously look for group of people with integrity and well as ability to run a organization with $ 100 plus K budget and spread around 500 miles around chicago.
so it is time to look for new people and say good bye to TA and sohail Co.
Tango and N_W:
If a management change is needed, let's base it NOT on LA OPEN, but on hundred other things, as mentioned by Tango.
LA Open doesn't prove anything.
I repeat, we are a middle-aged cricket league. If we are serious about LA Open and other competitive fixtures, then we need to nurture young talent and send them. I don't think that's our priority right now. I doubt a change in management will change the priority.
Shekhs, wanna write a short travelogue on your trip to LA? You may exclude details about your nefarious activities :)
SD,
we all know the all the nonsense MGMT are doing for years. so add this to those. i dont disagree with you we are here to play for fun. but if that is the argument why would we participate in LA open at all?
Exactly, N_W. What are we trying to prove by participating in LA Open?
If we are serious about LA Open and other competitive fixtures, then we need to nurture young talent and send them
Or we could at least send the best talent we have.
I don't think that's our priority right now. I doubt a change in management will change the priority.
But at least we'll send our best team there. And thats pretty darn important for me.
the best talent we have will not bring us glories, other than mere participation. so, what's the point of sending them?
Check out Mehuls writeup and suggestion. Also, Shekhs has similar opinion.
the best talent we have will not bring us glories, other than mere participation. so, what's the point of sending them?
hmmm, WTF? so since we are the underdogs in most of the games, we let Tariq and Sohail choose whoever the hell they want, using OUR MONEY? Thats called slave mentality.
Look dude, I could care less if we don't send a team to LA, but if are going to send one, then it better be our best team.
tango,
Here is the other way of looking at it. I honestly think we cannot win it without SOME help. So if we are going there NOT TO WIN (assuming we pick only MWCC guys), then why not give chance to new players every year. I am sure it will boost somebody's confidence if he performs well at that level.
Mehul
I think in national and regionals is where we should send our best available team and whoop everybody's back side. On the other note, this dude Mandeep Dhillon from south florida can bat boy. Very cool head and very talented.
Mehul,
If the idea is to give youngsters a chance, then why not give other youngsters a shot too? Nasir, Raheel and Imran all played last year. Now why couldn't these guys select other youngsters like Jack, Sharath, Pradeep, Kamran Siddiqui, etc. who are just as deserving, if not more, than either of three guys selected?
Whichever way you look at it man, I still conclude that management acted like a bunch of ARROGANT CHUCKS......AGAIN!
I agree with you. If you are choosing just a team to have fun and experience then apart from couple of guys (for experience) we should give chance to more people. I you want to get serious about reaching to atleast semis, get help. For eg. Sushil Nadkarni played for Fooglies and scored in one and only game (against us) and they qualified for quarters.
SD,
we certainly not going to win there but representing LA would be a achievement for most of the people playing for midwest. i bet every player, given that wives not going to bite their heads of, would goto LA regradless of their age given a oppertunity. i think we should goto LA and MOST IMPORTANTLY, we should pick the right and deserving people.
tango and all,
lets take this to next step and look for possible candidates who can beat TA.
lets take this to next step and look for possible candidates who can beat TA
There is this fat pig lying in my backyard who'll get more votes than Tariq this time......and will probably be a better President too.
There is this fat pig lying in my backyard who'll get more votes than Tariq this time......and will probably be a better President too.
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lets move him from there before xmas then.....
And Mehul, most of the oldies want to spend time with their families, so they won't play in the regionals. But we should at least send a team full of youngsters to participate these tournaments. I think we can put together a pretty good team for the regionals with young guys like Laxmi, Jack, Samarth, Dhiraj, Ruchir, Raheel, Pradeep, Aditya, Kamran etc.
And they'll probably enjoy it a lot more than the oldies do.
lets move him from there before xmas then....
The pig? Hell no! I'm going cook that fat bit** tonight. :)
There is this fat pig lying in my backyard who'll get more votes than Tariq this time......and will probably be a better President too.
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I believe it when I see it.
Also why is no one that went to L.A. from MWCC talking about the way they were treated? Mr. president and his posse left the rest of the team stranded Saturday night (flew out of L.A). I also heard the stories that MWCC players had to walk from the ground to the hotel and were on their own to buy their meals. Can someone who went to L.A. post their thoughts?
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
why is this all happening when the team's finance was underwritten by all of us.
Rup:
What is going on with you? We may never be able to change things around here but we will certainly be remembered for reasons being good to some and bad to others. That is all good as the same exists in any other setting where someone needs to speak up and make others aware of the happenings around them. Good people who can tolerate the TRUTH will listen and share your opinions,all in the benefits of improving our league. Then others will call us names and make us feel like we are worth nothing. You see it all the time all over. PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF CANNOT LEAVE.
You stay here my friend. You keep many like myself wanting to listen and communicate via your intelligence.
You decide.
Mehul,
Why do we need to get help? What are we trying to prove? Why unncessarily waste public money? Do we all need a LA Open victory to revive our fortunes?
We can have fun within our league. We don't need to spend league's money (OUR money) for few to play against top quality cricketers. If those cricketers are young and budding, I can understand. But not with oldies.
In the end, if Adnan is correct, those who participated are treated shabbily.
WTF?
Rup, when people take cheap shots at you, they are merely returning a favor.
With you, without you and inspite of you, blog will flourish :)
Yeah Tango,
Trinidad and Tobago beat AM International to win the championship.
Kevin Pollard was the finals MVP.
MVP of the tourney was Nikhil Chopra (yes Raheel, I see the smirk on your face) with 19 wickets.
Best Batsman - Leon Garrick (WTF?)
Best Bowler - Nikhil Chopra
Best Bowler - Andre from TNT
S_D,
About my nefarious activities - "What happens in LA, stays in LA" :-)
Adnan said
"Also why is no one that went to L.A. from MWCC talking about the way they were treated? Mr. president and his posse left the rest of the team stranded Saturday night (flew out of L.A). I also heard the stories that MWCC players had to walk from the ground to the hotel and were on their own to buy their meals. Can someone who went to L.A. post their thoughts?
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That was extremely heinous of the management to just leave them out there..
They did walk a few miles to their hotel (dont know about the meals part).
I apologize to the guys for not giving them a ride, but that would have screwed my entire trip as I would have had to miss the finals...and I'm not going to miss that for someone else's screw up...
Sorry fellas...
Who is the best wicketKeeper from Div 1 and who is the best in Div 2 ? Just from a wicketkeeping standpoint.
"Kevin Pollard was the finals MVP."
Correction - Keiron Pollard
Is it true that United tried to play some of the ACC players for the last night game?
I beleive they wanted Wasim Khan and Asher Mahdi to play from their side? I guess Adnan is always tryin to do something to cause some disturbance in the league
shekhs can you post your tour diary;). can you tell us a bit more about how our bowlers did and how batsmen played according to what you saw not by scorecard.
Is it true that United tried to play some of the ACC players for the last night game?
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Yes that is true. I wanted them to play with us against AAA to prepare them for L.A Open. I though it was a good idea for them to get to know us and build Chemistry.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
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why is this all happening when the team's finance was underwritten by all of us.
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why u consern finacen now???? mgmt selectoin team 1 week before la open........ if they select 1 month befroe, then tickit is at least $50 more cheap....... 14 tickit is $700 gone there istelf......
if team select early then more practice....... why wait until last??? u want to select on last 1 month preformacne?????
also why no transprot and meal for player??? i know (secret suorce ) that tariq, sohal, margoobbai and zafer all going to la....... 4 mgmt & no manging??????????
Can some one tell me y mgmt decided to promote Div 2 winner and Div 2 TOP Rank team to Div 1.
First of it was never dicussed in any AGM .I was there in all AGM n it was never dicussed
Secondly how we are going to decide TOP Rank team in Div 2.
Team like QC KINGS who only play in their grounds and win there all matches can they be considered as top ranked team
or team who got easier schedule and win all matches shd be considered as top team.
What happens if some X teams has to share points against easy team because match was rained out so they missed couple of points in total points
Adnan said...
Is it true that United tried to play some of the ACC players for the last night game?
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Yes that is true. I wanted them to play with us against AAA to prepare them for L.A Open. I though it was a good idea for them to get to know us and build Chemistry.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
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oh brother, u never learn.
first que we have to ask is, why does ta need to be at LA??? is he building friendhip with some stars to bring them to midwest?? if yes, it makes sense... i guarantee it is not the case, he is there for free ride and talk dirty usaca politics with mr reddy(from scca) and others. adnan, if rules are clear, why arent u??? u cannot bring players from acc. u though good idea for team..dont think, just follow rules.
congrats mehul on winning agaisnt aussies
santa, u r absolutely right.. why did this rule for promotion change??? wtf?? TTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Adnan, seems like you are getting ready to sit on the throne. Will we enjoy cordial relationship with ACC? Will you try to merge the two leagues?
SimonDispatch said...
Adnan, seems like you are getting ready to sit on the throne. Will we enjoy cordial relationship with ACC? Will you try to merge the two leagues?
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SD,
you must be smoking
this deadly babe, who was my teacher in 6th once told me never to hesitate to ask questions.
We all know how ACC is always trying to hurt MWCC (taking away grounds) and tryin to steal players.
I guess we have to make the choice either we are with MWCC or either we support ACC/Adnan and help them take away all our grounds and players?
We all see the Wash Park ground 1, nobody ever plays there and it was taken away from MWCC to hurt the league.
Now, Adnan have his companionship with ACC and helping them practice for LA open by trying to violate rules set by MWCC. Sounds great?
There are people who love to only bash mgmt but when u want to dicuss real issues u will not hear much of voice and I believe for these reason only Rup left blogg
u cannot bring players from acc. u though good idea for team..dont think, just follow rules.
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I will be the first one to follow the rules, if it was approved by the teams. It never was. If we are so sure that ACC will steal our grounds and the players then why is it that this rule was never voted by the teams?
Any way, neither Waseem nor Ashhar played the night game against AAA.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Adnan don't u see WP1 is been taken away by ACC though they don't utilize any time.
I don't know how often u go to WP but whenever I go to play WP I never see any game going on WP Grd 1
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tryin to steal players
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player have own brain to make own chioce for own money..... buddy this is america..... land of free........
I guess we have to make the choice either we are with MWCC or either we support ACC/Adnan and help them take away all our grounds and players?
Or we push for better relations with ACC so that we can get to use their grounds?
A better relationship with ACC is only going help our league.
United participated in the regionals, and Ruchir and Samarth got selected for Central-East team. Aren't some of the selectors part of the ACC?
ok, here is the inside info: usaca director masood does not like ta, but good friend of addi. masaood is looking to get votes for himself in central region and has made offers to a lot of people(addi included) to start a league. the more the teams, the more the votes available. acc wanted ground in wp, but their members voted against playing there. so, they formed new league(2 birds in 1 stone) and approached the local alderman(who is power hungry) and asked for ground. they got ground but did not have people to play. mcc complained, but was not effectuve. to show ground was used, acc got a team which had suny khan, waseem khan, medhi along with masood to wp-1. the same waseem khan, medhi now come to hanover park to play in our league??? wtf???
addi, have i deviated from facts???
""Any way, neither Waseem nor Ashhar played the night game against AAA""""
That was because the umpire didnt allow, if the umpire had not known the players and that they played in ACC, you would have succeded in "breaking the rule"
"Better relations with ACC"
Not to mention names, one of the top reps from ACC when asked why is Masood Chik doing a shitty job in USACA and why doesnt he see what people/cricket needs and bring everybody together responded, "we are in power and we can do what we want".
Isnt that dictatorship? The same model which Adnan seems to be following? So i dont think building a relationship with ACC is a good idea when their only motive is to hurt MWCC and "do what they want since they are in power".
5:25 PM
"Dr B said...
Rup:
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You stay here my friend. You keep many like myself wanting to listen and communicate via your intelligence."
Wonder what kind of doctor he is ?
Tariq has a bad relationship with the director of the USACA-Central East region. I don't know that guy Masood, but I am convinced that Tariq is a corrupt and arrogant President. Hence, I won't blindly hold any of rivals in contempt.
As far as I know, United sent a team to play in the Central East region, and a couple of our players got selected, even though the director of the region is from the ACC. So its pretty obvious that ACC doesn't have anything against the rest of us, their problems are with Tariq. And I could care less about Tariq's personal problems.
With regards to Adnan being a dictator. Sure, if he acts like Tariq, we can always vote him out of office too. But he's done a hell lot more for our players than Tariq has.
tango, i dont know man whether addy done anything for MWCC. all he is doing trying to boost his image whaever way he can.
all i know, we are screwed by power hungry middle age dudes.
why dont they all by a porsche and find blonde and drive down on lake shore?
Ok Ok OK ... Here is the deal...
The best teams was not selected to LA in the first place no need to dance around that and play spin Doctors...
When you pick poorly you pay the price.. nuff said..
i expect addi not reply to my que, he did not answer previous question about how much he spent for lawsuit. did he put lawsuit becos he did not get answers from ta??? hmmmmmm
ok, here is the inside info: usaca director masood does not like ta, but good friend of addi. masaood is looking to get votes for himself in central region and has made offers to a lot of people(addi included) to start a league. the more the teams, the more the votes available.
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What makes you think that I am a good buddy of Masood? Just becasue I am the only one fighting to provide opportunities for our boys, you think I am a pal of Masood? If that is what it takes to ensure our guys get the right exposure, then be it. Add 5 to 6 more guys to Masood's buddy list as they will be participating in this year's USACA western conference tournament in August.
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tango, i dont know man whether addy done anything for MWCC. all he is doing trying to boost his image whaever way he can.
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What am I accomplishing by boosting my image? You already know my stance on running in next election or should I remind you again?
ND have a little organization in your thought and stop to think before writting. You are on this blog to educate people and express your opinion. You should not be on this blog because you don't like someone personally. The biggest problem with you is that you don't want to do anything, you want others to do it for you, so you can play both sides.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
did he put lawsuit becos he did not get answers from ta??? hmmmmmm
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That's right becasue he was holding my money and I have the right to know how my money is being spent. Did I take your money for the lawsuit???? hmmmmmmmmmm
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
well you should have sued tariq and not mwcc.
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he did not answer previous question about how much he spent for lawsuit. did he put lawsuit becos he did not get answers from ta???
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look like everone in this leauge plain stupid........ next yr i go somhwer esle.... u not pay addy, he not anserable to u...... we all pay ta, he anserable to all..... r u stupid???????? if u like answer so much, answer this maan - what is ur real name?????
u dont want to tell real name and u get angry if someone ask..... but u want someone to tell major money detial??????? how much u spend on car???? how much on huose?????
u ask addy 100 time how much he pay lawsiut....... did u ask ta even 1 time any money que???????? reply me honeslty.......
befofre i come blog, i dont care adnan..... he is some guy i dont care..... after reading stupdi moron like u, i liek adnan more...... sheesh.
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well you should have sued tariq and not mwcc.
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addy say he sue who take money..... now u ask ur captian who he worte cheque for...... tariq or mwcc..... then u tell who took money...... then u tell who to sue.....
ppl in this leauge stupid......
and sum ppl in dis league dont learn da english.
You should not be on this blog because you don't like someone personally. The biggest problem with you is that you don't want to do anything, you want others to do it for you, so you can play both sides.
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why dont you think i dont like you personally? believe me, there is no such thing. my problem is you do thing which make TA look like the saviour.
tango, i dont know man whether addy done anything for MWCC. all he is doing trying to boost his image whaever way he can.
ND buddy, forget the past. Just look at what happened this year.
1. Tariq decides not to have a banquet.
2. Adnan gets slammed on the blog by you and me for being arrogant. He loses his temper, but still replies back to all of our queries. Tariq doesn't even bother showing up. Who is more arrogant?
3. Tariq doesn't send a team for the regionals. Adnan does, and two of our boys get selected for the regional team.
4. Adnan announces his team to LA, days before Tariq announces his team.
5. The LA Open selection by Tariq and Sohail is dismal, and our team loses all three games.
6. The LA Open is badly co-ordinated and our players are left stranded at their hotels, and have to arrange for their own transportation to the grounds.
7. Half-way into the season, there is still no sign of an All Star game.
well you should have sued tariq and not mwcc.
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That is what we did. It is not my fault that you let him get away with spending league's money.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
why dont you think i dont like you personally? believe me, there is no such thing. my problem is you do thing which make TA look like the saviour.
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Such as....
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
when god dsitribute gift, he give me brain & u englsih........ i am happy with teh trade.....
dont blame god for what you call your 'brain'.
That was because the umpire didnt allow, if the umpire had not known the players and that they played in ACC, you would have succeded in "breaking the rule"
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You are making it sound like I wanted to win against AAA at any cost. You should talk to the umpire (Kaleem)and ask him how far I was willing to go to have these two play with us. I offered to give up the game in exchange for Waseem and Ashhar to play one game before we leave for L.A.
I am a man of principle.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Adnan,
Altaf khadry, who played for you guys in LA, Is he the same as Syed Khadry?
Syed Khadry plays for Advancers, and is a fantastic spinner.
Yes sir, he does. He is an excellent spinner and truly a team player. It is amazing how good competition brings the best out of these players. This is after 4 hours of flight time in Southwest, two hours of waiting around the airport for the rest to arrive and catching couple of hours of sleep in my living room floor.
Adnan baig
United Cricket Club
SSkl said,
There are people who love to only bash mgmt but when u want to dicuss real issues u will not hear much of voice and I believe for these reason only Rup left blogg
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Are you saying I only came on this blog to bash mgt???
guys don't fall for time's english...that's a deliberate act by none other than VP.
tango forget the banquet man, the food sucks anyway :) the next president has to change the restaurant from where food comes. Adnan, hear this out dude.
If LA Open proved anything it proved that V. Sehwag does not belong in the international league. Hats off to BCCI selectors for grounding his ass finally.
On the Cricket Politics in America: I am curious to see why the players sponsored by league were left stranded without transportation or meals. On the selection of the team no matter who went to this tournament the result wouldn't have changed however, with that said I would suggest that the selection should be done by players of MWCC (50% weighted) and selection committee (50% weighted). The selection committee made up of top umpires to prevent biasness.
On the presidential candidate I like to see more of Tariq on the blog to address all the issues and also applaud Adnan for taking right steps in moving the cricket despite his conflicts with management.
Lastly, if anyone knows what's an entry fee for LA Open tounament. I can only imagine its pretty hefty and to think that MWCC is struggling with cash crunch why even send a team to LA Open if it can't cover all expenses.
Playball -
Rup I'm saying no one is intrested to dicuss real issue expect few like u
People are here just to bash mgmt or Adnan but no one wants to dicuss the problems that we as players face
Adnan is just using this forum to self prmote himself but can someone tell Adnan this way he will be never MWCC President
now you are playing ball with me :)
Romeen, still chatting with nurses?
I still think 'Ashwin' from Purdue is best batsman who was left out by both teams for LA Open.
Ashwin is better then Satha or Shahid.
Satha is only good when he plays in Springfield.Lot of good players were left for LA Open.Infact players from Div 2 were even ignored.
People like Jack and Challenger from ICC,Laksmi from IIT not even considered.
Imran Taylor is mentioned as from LuckyXI but he plays for AAA.
Only Madhu and Maninder from Peoria are there.Madhu is again Div 1 player only
how exactly is Madhu a Division I player? Is it because he played in Division I a couple of years ago?
If thats the case then Satha, Imran Taylor, Raheel and Nasir are all Division II players, since they all played in Division II before getting promoted to Division I.
Ok then leave Mandu and Maninder but do u believe Madhu and Maninder are only talent in Div 2
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neanderthal_walking said...
all i know, we are screwed by power hungry middle age dudes.
why dont they all by a porsche and find blonde and drive down on lake shore?
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Because that job is already being done by Romeen, of course :-) (Maybe thats why he aint joining us on the blog nomore?)
c8w
Ok then leave Mandu and Maninder but do u believe Madhu and Maninder are only talent in Div 2
Dunno much about the new players from Division II. But I agree that Laxmi, Jack and a few others are deserving.
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Sant sab ki leta said...
Ok then leave Mandu and Maninder but do u believe Madhu and Maninder are only talent in Div 2
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The only talent in Div2? Certainly not. The only ones of Div2 who may have genuinely deserved to make the cut this time? Maybe :-)
I think, if the team was being picked 3-4 years ago, there should have been maybe 6-7 players from Div2 good enough to make it in. Girish Kamthe from Purdue, Tarureddy from Springfield, Satha, Deven Patel from GCC, Rup and Jack etc etc. Div2 was very strong in those days IMHO.
This year, I think Div2 is relatively weaker than its been in a while (mostly due to lots of Div2 talent moving into Div1 thru promotions, migrations etc). This is also reflected in the much weaker performances of the Div2 teams that were promoted this year (note, the teams promoted the 2 years previously were all immediately successful in Div1, unlike this year's have been. That is no coincidence IMHO).
Were there any obvious choices for an LA Open team from Div2 that didnt make it? I dont know, this year (not like 3 years ago when people like Satha and Tarunreddy didnt get picked!) Before the tournament I would have considered Altaf as 2nd spinner myself... but his stats in the league havent been *that* outstanding, despite his being a very very good spinner (and he eventually went on the United side anyway). Laxmi's form this year hasnt been very good (Ajay Gandhi, who's form *was* good, was actually asked but he didnt go). Similarly Jack - his performances and rhythm last year seemed much better than they have so far this season. I cant really think of any other Div2 batsmen who Id pick over the bats who were actually taken to LA in the final squad (Sohail, Satha, Maninder, Amit etc). If you disagree... what obvious names do you have, that you think should have gone? And who would they have replaced in the squad that did eventually go? Id be curious to know.
c8w
Sant Saab,
Thanks for clearing that up.
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When i decided to drop off the blog was because my conclusion was that most of the bloggers were not going to do anything for the betterment of cricket in MWCC.
This is fun for them. They can't wait for people who post valid issues so they can get crap going.
Who else is responsible for what's going on right now in MWCC but MGT.
there were a lot of shots at mgt recently but all these were issue I raise since last year and early this year.. I was bashing mgt..they are not today.
When I announce my intent to run for Presidest there were a lot of negative feed backs from these bloggers although my plan of action was for change for the good of cricket.
People that I expect to support me were against me so that tells me they don't want change.
Recently I had a short conv with a mgt personell.
Q: Rup why are you not on the LA Team
Ans: Was not selected but it don't bother me for they have done a lousy job on the selection.
Q:Why are you not volunteering to help the league.
Ans: I will if I was asked to. Mgt needs to let us know where they need help so we can volunteer if we can do the job. A lot of people including me are realy mad at mgt and will not help right now.
Mgt: ok, talk to me. let me know what are your concerns?.
Rup: why have we not gotten any finacials and it's july.
Mgt: don't worry about finance next topic.
Rup;Why are we not getting more oppurtunities to showcase our talent. Only La open and a bogus selection.
MGT: Don't know why but we need to
Rup: why is Tariq not sending a letter or coming on this Blog once a month and giving us a league update given all the concerns by members
Mgt: Why! he don't have to do that.
Mgt: you are a good guy, why don't you come out and help.
Rup: Take my Cell # and call me and if I can I will.
conv ended as i had to leave.
Over the weekend I pondered back at this conv and realized that there are a lot of teams that will not vote against this MGT no matter what they do.
As for me being the president in this leage. Don't think it will happen.
There are a whole bunch of people in this league who can't stand to See ICC or myself win anything just because they are just bias in their thinking.
I have been through this within this league and away from this league and there are no signs of change. Everytime I make a coment i am bashing or hating. You guys can't handle the truth for you will defend wrong and strangle the truth
We in ICC figure out..What the heck. pay our fees and go have some fun..Looks like no ICC player will get a chance to play for MWCC again..maybe we will get lucky and win the cup one day. You guys figure out how it's being spent.
The above factors were reasons for me stop blogging now. Maybe i will come on later if i change my mind on running for executive office of MWCC.
Ok can u tell me what is the only criteria for selection for LA Open.
If stats is only one then y people from Div 2 with good stats are not even considered.
Lastly, if anyone knows what's an entry fee for LA Open tounament.
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$1500.00
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Because that job is already being done by Romeen, of course :-) (Maybe thats why he aint joining us on the blog nomore?)
c8w
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Boy,n_w totally set me up for that one. I wish I was doing what you are suggesting c8w, but the truth is very boring. Swamped at work. My midlife crisis involves a car and lake shore drive but is missing that third vital ingredient :)
And SD, I am chatting with the nurses but mostly about work.Yawn yawn...
Some good discussions here.Hopefully something constructive will come out of all of this.
Are we going to start predicting the results for the upcoming games or not?
tango forget the banquet man, the food sucks anyway :) the next president has to change the restaurant from where food comes. Adnan, hear this out dude.
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There will be no banquet if I become the President of this league. All that money will be spent in the ground during finals. I want to create an L.A. Open like environment, for MWCC finals. Free food, activities for kids and families, cash prizes and hardcore Cricket.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Romeen,
You @ work?
Howya been?
Adnan I like your idea with the MWCC finals..
seems like mgmnt is avoiding questions on the finance...hmmm...something fishy?
Adnan, I like your idea too on the finals...also, can u please delete the word "hardcore" from the record...
well i don't know why u guys bash the mgmt at all it's not there fault it our fault we bring this mgmt if we don't like the job they r doin don't make the same mistake again & again first of all i don't understand why not every member of the team is allowed to vote i think everybody pay & play in this league so everyone has a right to vote but if there is only 1 vote per team then it's our job that before the AGM every team should have a team meeting of there own & discuss this issue before coming to AGM what ever u guys decied in your meeting than is captain job to go according to that if in anycase u guys think that your captain will change his vote cause he is a good friend of TA then it is your responsibility not to send him to vote.Guys this is in our hand go and take some action cause is your hard earned money.
Hey Shekhs,
Slightly better day today. You around?
Aditya, wanna start our lil prediction game again?
Hey Romeen,
Well, I'm swamped at work today..
I'll try to stick around and keep up...
Talking about Division II's deserving players for the LA team, or may be more suitable players for 20/20, I'll recommend Ramkumar Chandrashekharan (from Jolly Rovers) & Mohammad Yaseen (from Giants). These two aforementioned players might be two of the very best talent we have in our league. What they lack is some consistency for a longer inning. I have played against these people for many years in division II, and believe you me both of them are handful. Since scoring 40 or 50 runs is what 20/20 is all about, my picks could be deadly in that form of cricket. If anybody else has played against these people, and share my views, please comment on it.
I've always enjoyed the banquet. I don't think we should get rid of it.
Considering the type of money our league makes every year. I'm pretty sure we'll be able to have a kick-ass Finals, and a nice Banquet.
Tango man,
Whats up with the monkey face?
Haven't talked to you guys in a while..
Hari Kiran from QC Kings would be a one other contender for LA Open, he was top 5 in batting last and this year too. Good Clean hitter who can destroy and bowling line up ask Eagles or Deccan Blues or even Jolly Rovers.
Madew what are your comments on this guy, i thought you know him pretty well from Hyderabad ??
Suresh Paul and Shakir Ahmed performed pretty well this year, even though you think division 2 teams are weak this year you need perform and perform consitently which these guys are doing.
Check their stats...
Any comments Cricketwallah.
Nothing against Hari but he always played big knocks only in Moline only. Ask people who played in Moline that how the ground is.....
Regarding Suresh Paul and Shakir Ahmed these guys are great player in 40-40 but I doubt their capabilities in 20-20.They r not big hitter.
I will say Yaseen from Chicago Giants is one perfect player for 20-20
I second Yaseen from Chicago Giants for 20-20. He has been terrific against good bowling attacks and struggles against mundane attacks. He always kills our teams and we have one of the better attacks in the league.
Please only post your comments about sending players to LA open only if you have ever seen the level of cricket in that tourny.
When stars like Satha, Sohail, Dax, Madhu, afroze cannot stay at wicket for more than a minute...that should tell you enough before you start adding div2 players to LA open.
All you bloggers were against sending Raheel to LA open and from scorecards seems he was the only bowler we had in LA and all your stars like Nilesh, Dax, Afroze were left feeling like they were bowling for first time in their life.
My Personal opinion only. Sending teams to LA open doesn't improve league in anyway and waste of money. It doesn't showcase the talent that is there in the league in anyway.
Instead they should think of participating in regionals which gives exposure to the players at national level and with the format of games that we are playing it is right way.
For fun of few why to waste leagues money on a 20/20 game.
Daxx, can you post pictures from the L.A. Open CD?
Thanks.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Deccan,
Hari is good clean hitter. He is been performing for QC kings. He was like that when I played him in Hyd. All I can say is LA open is played on Turf and their big learning curve for every one from MWCC who go there, unless we practice on Turf wickets. First is playing on natural turf wicket..where balls come little sticky, with uneven bounce and playing spinners is pretty formidable. At the same rate, playing quickies (Pujab blue bowlers all fourd are test bowler with bounce aimed right at ur rib cage) is even trickier. We haven't got any one who can bowl consistently like the in MWCC period. Also, batting strokes are different. You get more runs in point and back of the wicket region. If some cannot play those strokes are at mercy of bowlers. My suggestion would to take a bunch of players who are good hitters and one/2 players, and mix them up and have them play on turf wicket atleast once before taking them to LA (I know its luxury her). There is practice wicket now (b4 it wasn't there when went in 2005)in LA. I personally feel team should reach early atleast a day in advance, to practice there and get together practice at least once in the nets. Its very hard schedule! Landing 2:30 in the morning and have couple hours of sleep and be on the ground by 8:30 AM for game and another one right after. All I can say 'playing on turf' requires different set of skill sets as ball always doesn't come to the bat as it does here (astro and concrete) it NOT easy to hit the ball around. You need players you can play around the ball and please be aware that we are playing with 1 st class cricketers meaning, they will give one ball per over full (trying for yorker at 85-90 miles) which can or might be put away. Running between the wickets is another aspect. You stick around and think you can get easy sigles is a dream. Every single is contested and throws to keeper are spot on! Unless we implement these I don't think we have genuine chance at all to even move to knock outs. I am not sounding pessimistic, but all I can say its 'Very' different and notion that a player who is successful here may not hold godd is all I am saying. These are my personal thoughts!
Madhu Reddy
PCC
For fun of few why to waste leagues money on a 20/20 game.
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What if we don't use League money and raise funds instead? If United can do it, MWCC should not have a problem doing it.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Adnan y when some postive dicussion going on u come and start only talking abt financial irregularties of MWCC.
Wht u r trying to proove here?. R u trying to say only United is well manged?......
If MWCC's so bad managed then y the hell u backed out of court.Infact Mehul himself offered this is 1 st AGM this year.
U r one bunch of person with no + attitude
What if we don't use League money and raise funds instead? If United can do it, MWCC should not have a problem doing it.
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best thing ever said on blog. We definitely need a more active mgmnt.
I will be more inclined towards sending younger teams to Regional or LA open.
Oldies like Sohail I don't see any chance.If we want to cricket in Midwest to improve we must give more chances to young talent.
Madew,
Just to add to what you said..
These guys practice about 7 days a week 7-8 hours a day..
So, to face that kind of balls, our stars (let alone mere mortals) need enough practice.
Or to bowl to that kind of talent (I saw Stuart williams just move out of the line-leaned backwards(a 85-90 mile ball) and whack the ball over extra cover for a four)....
If we are sending a team, it should just be for getting exposed or getting a feel of it...and also you get to see some good cricket...
Adnan,
you have a good point of raising the money to send the team..
There are so many potential players that you can name who can be sent, but you have to realize the amount of talent you are up against..
I think instead of bashing all these people, you guys should pat on their back for the display they did...because its never easy to play against those monsters...
And I think our boys did well..
Wow, missed a lot of flogging.
Some of you are like Murali..not bent but pretending abnormal.
WTF.. You all need to stop FLIP/FLOP. pick a side and stick to it.
Justcricketforfun,
I personally don't like the 'word' oldies and it very discriminatory. As long as a person is performing (runs, fielding, or bowling or batting) and doing the job for their team, should be considered for any team that MWCC puts forward. I was reading article on Cricinfo and I try to post it, reason why 'Oldies' are playing on the Indian team is because there no 'Youngies' who can consitently perform and take baton from 'Oldies'. Unlike Australia, who are dominent being 'Oldies' is because they perform on the field. As long as Tendi or Dravid or Laxman can perform and do basic things right no has complaints. SUddenly they don't bat or drop catches that is because they are 'oldies'. 'oldies' or 'Youngies' is directly proprotional to their 'cricketing form' and 'performance' on the field. When there is worthy 'youngies' who can out perform and take the place, so be it you know. Please don't get on the bandwagon of youngies. You should have seen 'TnT team' with all the 'youngies' with little mix of oldies. What a fantastic team it was! I couldn't believe Lein Garrents Run out and a catch at gully. Reminds you of JOnty Rhodes at best. Also, one question I have is where is cutoff 'number' for 'Youngies' to be deemed 'Oldies'? please tell me? I could never figure out...by the way I am 34..
Madhu Reddy
PCC
Mehul..
Thank you for stopping and checking on me. I was literally upset with southwest for having lost my luggage. They put wrong tags on my luggage with soem different name and sent them to Sacremento..It took me three days...with 20-30 calls to check and track down my luggage and get it delivered. I had my car keys and home keys in my bag...Ididn't know how to get home at that point..I realized at the point that I had extra key to my car in my wallent..I really appreciate it for stopping by checking on me..It was very nice of you!
Thank you!
Cheers
Madhu Reddy
PCC
Madhu, your 34?
Definitely an Oldie :)
Then again, I might think different when I turn 34 (not too long from now)
But yes, I agree, if someone can play, they should be on the team.
Well said Madew,
We ain't got no young ones performing consistently in this league..
Please name a few so i can stand corrected?
most of these bloogers are a bunch of punks, colored Punks "That Is".
They don't think before they write crap on this blog
Madew,
you 34?
I thought you were 19... :-)
And thats why you were not drinking..
Sheks,
you were there to witness the some amazing cricket. And you are right its the 'exposure' part that sometimes make the guys get the realy perspective on cricket. Likes of Merv Dillon, Adam Sanford, Dion King, Franklin Rose, gives that 'exposure' where you stand as a cricketer. It was just amazing experience. Its was different level cricket altogether. Any body who gets chance to go 'SHOULD' go and I cannot stress it more. Its once in a life time experience to see and experience, these players so 'Upclose & personal'...like sheks said Its kinda like safari watching these 'Monsters' in their natural habitat...hehe..:) Pleaes check with Bhavesh, Tushar and sheks..they got connections to Carl Wright and Rose...:) he is their homie now..:) hehe..
Madhu Reddy
PCC
madew you made very good points about la being a different kind of cricket. its hard for hitters to succeed we should take more ppl who can play proper cricket shots instead of huge hits as amit did well and he is not a big hitter. also raheel's performance was so poor pak might have dropped him in mwcc matches but he did pretty ok in la.
Madew,
Yeah, its once in a life time experience...no doubt about that..
Yep, Frankie and Carl Wright are our home boys now...
Dont be surprised if Carl Wright turns up for Challengers game.. :-)
We went all the way to recruit some international talent.. :-)
You know whats good about these guys...?
Their demeanour off the field...they are extremely cool and approachable...
Richie Richardson was just lounging around during the finals, walking by himself...
imagine Sachin or Saurav walking like that...geez..
Even Sehwag wouldn't come out of his tent..ohwell they were sipping beer in their RV.. :-)
But, those carribeans were really cool..
My personal opinion only..
Adnan, i like your idea of raising funds for LA open if league still wants to send a team.
But my point is, our league format is predominantly 40/45 overs except Abid Laheri tournament (where few teams participate). So what is the logic in sending a team to LA open and not to regionals? You know that you are up against first class cricketers in LA open, and talk about exposure it is just nonsense.
Here is comes some bloggers who belong to DIV I teams boasting that if they can't perform then DIV II palyers cannot stand a chance. It is clear that none in our league is good enough to go for LA open, then lets spend that money in our league to improve.
Straight drive,.
You got my point...Few the shots that we play here you cannot play on Turf wickets...'playing across the line'... hits over the long on or off..to do this you have to come our of the crease
Here are my personal obervations. These are shots that are very vital for success of any batsmen:
1. Cuts. Upper cuts( when ball is high) you have fielder at third man and gully any where between you are trapped.
2. Flicks. Move across the line to play the ball to square leg or fine leg region, the bread and butter. Ball is at pretty high speed so, you have to be very careful doing it.
3. Back foot punches. You hardly get cahcne to get on front foot to drive. Most balls are coming above your waist height atleast you are forced on the back foot. You have meet the ball sometimes in line of the wicket.
4. Pulls (please remember you have a fielder on deep square leg always so no aerial)
5. slog sweeps and Getting to the pitch of the ball and driving or placing the ball in the gaps. This shot works especially for spinners. There is no pace on the ball pretty, so you have to generate the pace. Pretty hard to do unless bowler is fastish spin, off-breakers or something. Both Amit and Asif were so successful doing this. See score cards ( not jsut ours but others also) lots of run-outs and stumpings. Meaning you cannot have error on judgement. One hesitation you are GONE!
Madhu Reddy
PCC
qc,
I agree with you on the Div 1 Div 2 comparison...thats just BS..
But I disagree with you on not sending a team..
I think its a great experience just going out there ...if you can raise the money and send a team....it will be awesome..
Sheks I agree with you...there is no Div 1 or Div II player comaprision..Any one can play out there as long as, like Str_drive said 'proper cricket'. If league has funds and can send a team to LA, they should be doing it...Players get a good exposure and perspective...and learn...Ask Raheel..franklin Rose showed him or explained to him how to bowl leg cutters...cuting from out side leg stump..These Carrib players are so easily approchable and friendly...Give them a beer (Ask sheks or Bhavesh or Tushar how that is 'Properly done..:) they will spill out all their secrets..:)
Madhu Reddy
PCC
Madhu,
Thank you for calling people out on all the 'oldies bashing'. :)
I agree with you,I guess if you are good and can stay fit, you are in.
My Personal opinion only...
Sheks, I agree with you that its a great experience for those who either participated in LA or went to watch.
But how does that help this league?
It is not right for the league to spend money collected from teams (to play in this league) on these types of tournaments.
qc,
We definitely benefit from these kind of tournaments, if we do it the right way.
For instance, if we have a talent like Shahid, he can get exposed over there and can be invited for other tourneys, maybe even the US team.
But, it would be really nice if we can raise the money for this tourney and use that to send the team than the regular league fees...bottomline, we need to get sponsors..
Hey Shekhs, Did you take lots of pictures? Can you email them?
QC,
First and foremost I should say this MWCC is not FUN cricket league, but a competitive cricket league. The way it helps is league is by giving the selected players a 'Exposure' to higher level cricket. Also, this helps in showcase the talent of MCC. We do not play in tournis its kinda like owning Porche and NOT driving it on mean roads of Lake shore....for just showcase of it..:)Ask Romeen on this..
Here is my thought: Every year there should be a probable list of 30-40 players selected from the all Divs on years performances and then based on their skill sets make teams for regionals, LA and other local tournis in around Chicago. We are competitive league and our 'best' should be able to beat the BEST from other regions tournis and WIN trophies for MWCC...Its matter pride to represent MWCC and perform well...Its just like any other competitive teams our there....show case the talent!
Madhu Reddy
PCC
Madhu I'm sorry if I offended but tell me wht to do to make cricket more popular in midwest ....
Don't u think we need to give exposure to younger lot more.....
People like me and u hw much cricket left in us?Be practical ......
If want cricket to grow n want player from region selected to US team then for me we need to give me chances and exposure to young guys.....
I will really apprecaite wht Krishna from Tigers is doing for younger players.....If right direction is given to some of these young guys they can go miles......
I'm not against ppl like who r great players but here I'm talking abt growing and developing cricket in region
yeah, I'll email em..
I'll try to put them on the blog when I get a chance..
mostly its Hassan posing with all the stars... :-)
matter of fact, Hassan was the homie among us...was just too charismatic with all the carribeans and the otherstars...
We almost got thrown outta the airplane on our way to LA, thats how loud we were on the plane..
not to mention the free drinks we were getting...thanks to Tushar and his charms..
hello guys,
i have l.a open picture cd which was given by adan. preety amazing picture. whoever can put those picture on midwest page feel free to contact me and i"ll give the cd, so everyone here can see it and enjoy being in la. i"ll contact with shohil or someone who's in charge so they can post that pic.
thank you adnan..cd does not have one single picture of mine..:) just joking..i have few picture..
daxx
Adnan,
Is there a way we can download those pics?
Is it possible for you to put those up on your website?
Justcricketforfun,
No offence taken at all:) I completely understand there is may 2 years of good cricket left...and I really commend what Krishna is doing. Its just wonderful! If I am right there was call I think from Krishna or Mehul I think, asking for players MWCC under 16 team to go to some kinda of tourni I not sure but I remember reading it on the blog. When they reach 21 or 22 they will be great cricketers..If there is younger guy available with such talent he should be considered..Say for example Asif, we haven't come across a better spinner than him...so far in the league..( I have been MWCC league for over 10 yrs) If there is Talent trust me every one would know..and 'they' will consider him on MWCC...If you ask me, there should a Under-25 MWCC and a open catergory team if you do really want to cut off...that way we can have a good sense who is performing well and where..Unless we have these kinda things in place its hard guage the performace....best teams are always with 'Dynamic young guns' with some 'Old Canons'...:)
Adnan,
Is there a way we can download those pics?
Is it possible for you to put those up on your website?
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I am working on it. I am uploading the pictures on UCC FTP server, it is taking forever. I gave a CD to Daxx, if you see him grab it.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
By the way nice picture of you with Richie Richardson :)
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
cool. thanks.
cd does not have one single picture of mine..:) just joking..i have few picture..
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Daxx you were too busy macin'. There were some fine girls runnin' around half naked.
Adnan Baig
United Cricket Club
Madhu don't u think with little resources that MWCC is having and LA Open is only tournament that MWCC is sending team won't be good if we send players who r young..............
If MWCC is ready to send these young player to tournament like under 16,under 19,under 21 then it is doesn't matter who shd go for LA Open.......
By the way I liked the idea of having pool of min 30 talented players from all Div.Select these players by end of season based on their performance.Let them know that they r probables for LA Open for next year.
By this these players will be ready to play as team .....
There were some really fine girls..
hey, maybe thats why we lost our wickets...we were'nt watching the ball after all..
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